Rubio seen as a moderate and an establishment candidate not a conservative

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Rubio’s night shocked Iowa political observers like Robinson, who had predicted Rubio would wind up far behind Trump and Cruz, with perhaps around 15-18 percent of the vote. He finished with 23 percent.

    Rubio's performance will strengthen his argument that supporters of other moderate, establishment candidates such as former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, and Ohio governor John Kasich should throw their support, and their money, behind him.....

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/marco-rub...tered-republican-establishment-064924990.html
     
  2. InTheLight

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    Ah yes, the assumptive statement, "other moderate establishment candidates".

    You have not proven that Rubio is a moderate or an establishment candidate. Why is Rubio a moderate establishment candidate?
     
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    Please re-read the title and consider every word without skipping any of them.
     
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    Rubio billed the Florida GOP for a new car once and he barely escaped indictment over a real estate deal. He is a beautiful speaker but needs more time to mature.
     
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    He is a charismatic neocon instrument that needs to be defeated.
     
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    QUOTE="kyredneck, post: 2202958, member: 9690"]He is a charismatic neocon instrument that needs to be defeated.[/QUOTE]

    I think that Fox News is pushing Rubio because owner Rupert Murdoch likes him. Rupert is not the same as Captain H. M. "Howling Mad" Murdock of the A-Team, as you know.

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    I think Rubio is the most intelligent of the bunch as well as clearly the best debater. He can bring together all sides of the party. He is also shown in national polls to have the highest probability to beat Hillary, then comes Trump. Cruz is too far right and in my opinion he is the one Hillary is voting for to win the nomination. I don't think anybody other than these three are serious candidates that have a realistic chance of winning the Republican nomination. I hope in the next couple weeks after the New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada primaries we see the field dwindle way down so we can have some more focused debates just between the serious contenders. I will be voting for Rubio, but Trump may have already run away with things by the time my state of Ohio finally gets to vote. I would vote for any of the three over Sanders, Clinton, or any other liberal.
     
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    Santorum threw his support behind Rubio earlier today.

     
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    Hi Brother,

    That should add about half a percentage to Rubio if ALL of Santorum's supporters vote for him LOL ( I say this jokingly even though I am going to vote for Rubio and like Santorum). He just never had the similar momentum he did like the last time he ran when he won Iowa. I think this time Santorum got about 1%. Anybody know who Rand Paul now supports (if any candidate) since I heard he too is out? He doesn't seem to have much in common with any of the others with his isolationist military views.
     
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    From the Tampa Bay Times newspaper -

    "Those expenses include a $1,000 charge at Braman Honda in Miami for repairs to the family car in January 2008. Rubio said the minivan was damaged by parking attendants at a political function and that the party agreed to cover half of his insurance deductible. The party also paid $2,976 for him to rent a car in Miami for five weeks."
     
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    I know Brother Joseph. Biggrin But it makes me wonder. Santorum got a lot of the evangelical vote back in the early primaries of 2012. So I'm wondering why he didn't endorse Cruz? On Greta's (Van Sustern) show, he mentioned someone who would fight for the same things that he would and that they shared the same values.

    They are both Roman Catholics though. That may be it.

    I don't think Rand Paul is gonna support any of them at least not at this moment from what I've read.
     
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    Marco Rubio's immigration stand is going to hurt him with principled conservatives. I'm working on the Cruz campaign in a county in Central Florida. I can tell from first hand experience that many of the Cruz grass roots volunteers are highly motivated because Cruz' positions validate what they believe. If it were not for Cruz they would stay home. Most of these people will not participate in a Rubio campaign. Why? They believe that if Rubio can strike a deal with the likes of Chuck Schumer, then he's already displayed a weakness that he'll carry with him into the White House.
     
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    It would be really hard for a candidate to be more republican "establishment" than Marco Rubio.
     
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    I am asking this sincerely--Why is Marco Rubio an "establishment" candidate? He was the original Tea Party senator, and has a fabulous conservative voting record in the US Senate. Is it the misguided immigration bill?
     
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    He will be defeated by the neocon instrument Hillary Clinton the globalist's preferred tool.

    Cruz has peaked. The establishment is terrified of Trump so they're pushing Rubio to the top to lose to Hillary.

    Trump is the one guy that stands in the way of the Europeanozation of the United States. Rubio isn't that guy. Cruz isn't that guy and Hillary is most definitely not that guy.

    The globalists could always have Rubio fall on his sword late in the game and bring in JEB.

    Bottom line is the game is rugged in favor of the "money powers".
     
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    Stuff like being tied at the hip to billionaire Paul Singer and a host of what others have called establishment billionaires.

     
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    Yeah, so? All politicians (except maybe Sanders) get donations from wealthy contributors. Frequently these people give to more than one candidate. Supposing these wealthy people's political views line up with your own? Then, what's the problem?
     
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    The problem is the global elite's views don't line up with normal human being's views.

    They hate us all equally and they use politicians like we use toilet paper.
     
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    • The American Conservative Union gives Rubio a lifetime score of 98/100. (Cruz = 100/100)
    • The NRA gives him a grade of A.
    • The Family Research Council gives him a rating of 100%.
    • The Club for Growth calls him the "gold standard for conservatives" (along with Cruz)
    • The Council Against Gov't Waste called him the "Taxpayers Superhero" and gave him 100% in 2014. (Cruz also = 100%)
    • The NARAL, Pro Choice America, gives him a score of 0.
    • He opposes embryonic stem-cell research
    • He opposes exceptions to abortion in the cases of rape and incest
    • He oppose gay marriage
    • He proposes freezing spending for everything except defense and veteran's care benefits.
    • He supports a line item veto
    • He supports a balanced budget amendment
    • He voted against funding for the Export-Import Bank
    • He wants to cut corporate tax rates down to 25%
    More:
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429088/marco-rubio-conservative-record
     
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    Ah yes, the "no true global elitist" fallacy.
     

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