Rubio thumping Trump!

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  1. steaver

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    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/27/marco-rubio-donald-trump-super-tuesday-primary

    Is it too little too late? Rubio is dead on pointing out Trump's phoniness and hammering him on it, something the liberal press has not done and for good reason, they want Trump to win the nomination bad! Once Trump wins it, they will annihilate him and Hillary will look absolutely wonderful compared to Trump. Hopefully Rubio's new approach to do what the media should have been doing all along will shake the voters back into their senses. But time is short, this should have been done weeks ago.
     
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    It's probably too late for Rubio to get the nomination via winning a majority of delegates. It's not too late to deny Trump the majority of delegates. This means a brokered convention. At this point, that appears to be the best path for Rubio to get the nomination.

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    Rubio mentioned that the majority of Republicans didn't want Trump as the nominee. Trump is killing him in the polls. So doesn't that mean that even fewer want Rubio as the nominee?
     
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    ...and you don't consider this as 'dirty tactics'? This is OK with you?
     
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    It's highly doubtful he'll even carry his home state of Florida. Rubio's the neocons boy and they'll try everything in their power to throw the nomination to him.
     
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    It would be a sure way to make him run as a third party candidate and give the election to Hillary.
     
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    If you add up the percent that does not go to Trump then Rubio has a point. Trump alone is polling higher than each individual, however, boil it down to Trump verses a single whoever, a two person race, and then it would probably look a whole lot different. All of the experts say Trump doesn't stand a chance in a general election. You know the media is going to destroy him for his hypocrisy. They are just lying in wait....
     
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    Marco has a lot of problems back in Florida. The Tea Party down there put him in office but then he joined the infamous gang of eight. He won't be able to win in Florida and I don't think he's crazy enough to push for a brokered convention.

    But it's not true that the MSM (and Hillary) ever wanted to run against Donald Trump - anything but. There's no proven formula to defeat Trump and he has a much thicker Teflon finish than Hillary does. I don't think it's impossible and I don't care what some poll over six months out says right now, the GOP ticket will probably be Trump/Kaisich, ugh.
     
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    Precisely.

    Among GOP primary voters it's:
    Trump 33%
    Not Trump 67%

    Eleven candidates have dropped out and Trump has not gained voters.

    I would not be counting Rubio out of winning Florida. It's more than 2 weeks away, an eternity in the calculus of elections.
     
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    The Republicans explained by Star Wars.
    starwar trump.jpg
     
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    No, it's not dirty tactics. It's the GOP's rules. If someone cannot get the necessary delegates on the first floor vote at the convention they are no longer bound to vote the same way in subsequent rounds.

    Supposing Trump has 900 delegates; 1,237 are needed. The last primaries are on June 7th; the convention is at the end of July. Trump could do and/or say some outrageous things over that time span. Maybe a whole bunch of delegates won't want to vote for him after the first round. Maybe polls show him losing to Hillary by double digits. Who knows?
     
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    All of the experts huh? "The experts" have pretty much mucked it up when assessing the viability of Trump.
    You got that right --lying. The Donald has proven that he pretty much carries the day against what used to be considered the all-powerful media.
     
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    Well you have to admit, expert or no expert, no one thought Trump could say the things he has said about people, even mocking the disabled, and still 33% of the people support him. What does that say about the condition of the American people's hearts? And worse yet, Christians support such a nasty man. What does that say about the condition of the church?
     
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    The media is using Trump for ratings; Trump is using the media for publicity. When the GOP race is winnowed down to two candidates Trump will no longer be the front runner and the media will start to ignore him. He will have to say increasingly more outrageous things to get their attention, and will alienate the undecideds.



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    Be that as it may. As things stand Rubio STILL would have to admit that even fewer want him than Trump.
     
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    No, because in match ups against Hillary, Rubio beats her and Trump loses to her, proving more want Rubio than Trump.

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    Rubio wasn't talking about matchups. He was talking about that Trump didn't have a majority of GOP support overall. Which again is a dumb thing to say considering he, Rubio, has far less GOP support.
     
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    I'VE got far less GOP support than Trump or Rubio, but when I say Trump does not have a majority of GOP support it's still the truth.

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    Their back and forth this weekend was ridiculously sad. Small hands and wetting pants?Thumbsdown
     
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    Trump simply acted normal with his trivial school yard bullying. Rubio in my view was just holding a mirror up to him to prove a point and Trump went crazy!
     

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