Russia’s Rise To Global Power

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  1. poncho

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    Russia’s Rise To Global Power

    Paul Craig Roberts

    This article first appeared in Strategic Culture Foundation http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/05/22/russia-rise-to-global-power.html

    Western propaganda about events in Ukraine has two main purposes. One is to cover up, or to distract from, Washington’s role in overthrowing the elected democratic government of Ukraine. The other is to demonize Russia.

    The truth is known, but truth is not a part of the Western TV and print media. The intercepted telephone call between US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt reveals the two coup plotters discussing which of Washington’s stooges will be installed as Washington’s person in the new puppet government. The intercepted telephone call between Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and EU foreign policy official Catherine Ashton revealed suspicions, later confirmed by independent reports, that the sniper fire that killed people on both sides of the Kiev protests came from the Washington-backed side of the conflict.

    To summarize, when Washington orchestrated in 2004 the “Orange Revolution” and the revolution failed to deliver Ukraine into Western hands, Washington, according to Victoria Nuland, poured $5 billion into Ukraine over the next ten years. The money went to politicians, whom Washington groomed, and to non-governmental organizations (NGOs) that operate as educational, pro-democracy, and human rights groups, but in fact are Washington’s fifth columns.

    Read More At: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/05/24/russias-rise-global-power-paul-craig-roberts/
     
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    ***bump***
     
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    Why? Most of us on here have made a concerted effort to ignore anything this yahoo says.
     
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    I just felt kind of sorry for Poncho. Not many people respond to his posts and since he has me on Ignore he doesn't have anyone to interact with anymore.
     
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    Don't poke a hornet's nest or a sleeping rabid dog.
     
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    KINDNESS on this board? Wow, things are turning around maybe :laugh:

    Nice thought. I'd guess others read his posts, just have nothing to say.
     
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    The number don't lie. My threads generally get more views than theirs. Agree or disagree people are still being informed.

    That must really sting the guys that did their best to stop it. :smilewinkgrin:



    Dear Readers:

    Here is an eyewitness report of the violence that the Washington-backed government in Kiev is inflicting on those protesting against the anti-Russian regime that Washington has installed in Kiev. This is not information you will hear from the presstitute media or from “your” government.

    You can ask, “Who is this reporter? How do we know we can believe him,” or you can say, “We know that we cannot believe “our” government and its presstitute media, so let’s give the reporter the benefit of the doubt.”

    The reporter uses the German word Untermenschen, which means “under men” or lesser beings. The Nazis applied this term to most of humanity, while referring to Germans as Ubermenchen which means, in effect, overlords or superior men.

    The US neoconservative ideology parallels the Nazi ideology. Americans are the Exceptional People, the Indispensable People. Everyone else is unexceptional and dispensable. Apparently the American people are convinced of their worthiness over others. Perhaps this is why there is no remorse over the millions of Untermenschen that Washington has murdered, maimed, and displaced in seven countries so far in the 21st century.


    Read More At: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/06/10/guest-column-russians-sub-humans-eyes-west/
     
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    Not only that but even those in high office are also disposable: e.g. Shades of Vince Foster.

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    I told you guys not to poke a hornet's nest.

    Poncho's "sources" are the liars and truth-benders, not the Ukranian government nor it's people, who simply want free markets and democracy. These shadowy figures who peddle lies and anti-American agendas in the guise of "the truth" are far more dangerous to us, because they distract from the dangers of the people in power, wanting us to believe that the visible leaders are mere puppets. Communists are our enemy. Radical Islamists are our enemy. The "conspiracies" don't exist. They are subterfuge designed by the Communists and radical Islamists to distract from their agendas.

    Poncho's paid liars were making out the Russian-speaking population to be "innocent victims" of so-called "Neo-Nazi demonstrators" who wanted to overthrow a "democratically elected government" before the "Ukrainian spring" that led to true democratic elections. There is no doubt Putin is an old-line communist and Soviet apparatchik. That was proven when Russia took military action to illegally invade eastern Ukraine in an effort to re-annex at least that part of the country, if not all of Ukraine. Putin's hubris in holding to a vision of a "new Soviet" is an extension of the old-line communists' view that Gorbachev betrayed the ideals of the old Soviet.

    Any vision to the contrary, any claim that there are mysterious and shadowy figures working for some complex and misbegotten oligarchic agenda, manipulating puppet leaders in virtually every country in the world from some invisible "corporatist headquarters" with just a few men and women wielding the power of multiple nations and moving them around like chess pieces is nothing more than a giant pile of horse hockey!! It is indicative of weak minds attempting to put the true complexities of world politics and opposing ideologies into a much-too-small package neatly tied up in a conspiratorial bow. In the process, they ignore biblical warnings of the approaching dominance of evil and the judgment of God on the world.

    And worse of all, I see people buying into Poncho's male bovine excretory material?? Great googly moogly!

    For heaven's sake, get yourselves informed!! Start here. We need to be aware of the dangers to our freedom and our Constitution, but Ukrainian people wanting democracy is not one of them.
     
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    What are your sources of great truth?

     
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    There is only One.
     
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    I take that to mean your own opinion.

    What online sources do you believe tells the truth?
     
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    I do it this way…….


    If the site tell's me Steve Colbert is a conservative, I know it's probably not a reliable source.










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    If they want to charge me $39 dollars to read their "research", I move on, also.
     
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    [​IMG]

    You've just unknowingly revealed your true self. I'll be sure to note this for future reference.
     
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    Why, the corporation's talking heads and typing hands of course. (mainstream corporate owned and controlled media)

    Fact. The same people who profit from all these "wars" are the same people who own and control the corporate media. A Saudi Arabian prince is the second largest share hold of Faux Snews for crying out loud!

    Does anyone here really think they're going to tell you the real reasons these "wars" are being waged?

    C'mon. It's time to wake up and get real. The mass corporate media (which is becoming extinct) is there to keep you distracted, misinformed and tied up in fear. Period.

    The truth is coming out and the necons are having a stroke over it. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    The Propaganda War About Ukraine

    Recently, Germany’s Der Spiegel featured a lengthy editorial damning Russia regarding Ukraine; it was titled “How Russia Is Winning the Propaganda War,” and it made many allegations, none with documentation, and not a single one with a link to assist the magazine’s online readers to reach easily the presumed (but unidentified) sources. It was the type of propaganda for which Fox “News” in the U.S. has become famous, though Spiegel is centrist (not “right wing”).

    The 2,500-word Spiegel article ignored Obama’s lies about Ukraine, and ignored the solid and voluminous evidence that the February 22nd overthrow of the democratically elected Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was engineered in Washington with assistance from rabidly anti-Russian Polish officials, and with the additional assistance of some fundamentalist far-Right Israeli-Ukrainian Jews who were willing to work with Ukrainian neo-Nazis to get this done. The May 2nd massacre in Odessa that started the civil war was masterminded by the person (Ihor Kolomoyski) who was appointed by the person (Yulia Timoshenko) whose ally (Arseni Yatsenyuk) was chosen by Obama’s agent (Victoria Nuland) to lead the post-coup government.

    The major media present a very different picture than you see documented in those links. Voltairenet pointed out how blatantly the major media lie. Headlining, “Kiev regime bombs civilians in eastern Ukraine,” they noted that those bombings were shown “only on Russian TV channels” even though “The OSCE mission in Ukraine has confirmed that the incident involving the administrative building in Lugansk was indeed an airstrike.” Moreover, “To this day, the Western media have ‘refrained’ from broadcasting the images of the civilian victims killed at the Lugansk administrative headquarters, despite their being available on Russian television and on the internet.”

    The links in the article that you now are reading are mainly to videos, and to articles with links to videos and tapped phone-conversations, which document in remarkable depth a shocking “You Are There” impossible-to-deny reality, which is the exact opposite of the filth that Spiegel editorially dumped upon its readers, and that’s “reported” in the New York Times, TV “news,” etc. That filth basically sides with the Obama-Nuland four-Party Ukrainian coalition, of two neo-Nazi parties and two merely fascist parties: the Ukrainian coalition that Obama placed into power there, and that was extended in the recent election, which was held between candidates of only those far-Right Parties. It’s as if an “election” in America had been held in which the only candidates were a regular Republican, a Tea Party Republican, a Militia activist, and a member of the Hitler-admiring Stormfront White supremacists. Should “democracy,” anywhere in the world, come down to a “choice” like that? If it does, then should the U.S. be threatening war against Russia to support this resulting fascism, in Russia’s own next-door – a security threat to Russia — a rabidly anti-Russian fascist Ukraine? Is this really the consequence of democracy in America? Or is it instead the result of democracy having ended in America?

    Read More At: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/

    On Friday, 13 June 2014, the New York Times headlined “Russia Sent Tanks to Separatists in Ukraine, U.S. Says,” and reported: “‘Russia will claim these tanks were taken from Ukrainian forces, but no Ukrainian tank units have been operating in that area,’ the State Department said Friday afternoon. ‘We are confident that these tanks came from Russia.’” The newspaper’s stenographer, or “reporter,” didn’t even question, much less deny, the veracity of that allegation, and then he went on stenographally, “‘This is unacceptable,’ said Marie Harf, a State Department spokeswoman. ‘A failure by Russia to de-escalate this situation will lead to additional costs.’”

    The specific charge there was that, “no Ukrainian tank units have been operating in that area.” That charge was a lie, as is made clear in numerous videos taken on the streets of southern and eastern Ukraine after the Ukrainian government (which the Obama Administration had installed after its February coup in Kiev) massacred people in the southern city of Odessa who rejected that newly installed coup-government. That massacre in Odessa sparked the civil war in southern and eastern Ukraine by the supporters of the democratically elected President whom we had overthrown in Kiev. Here are stills from just two of those videos that show that the official State Department line, that “no Ukrainian tank units have been operating in that area” was a flagrant lie:

    Read More At: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/nyt-stenographically-reports-white-house-ukraine-lies-like-2003-iraq-u-s-invasion.html
     
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