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Rythym does what for the body?

Discussion in 'Fundamental Baptist Forum' started by Salamander, Mar 2, 2009.

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  1. Salamander

    Salamander New Member

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    It has and you refuse to accept the facts.

    Of course music doesn't effect everyone the same, we each have our preferences in music and once exposed to a certain style one doesn't really know if they are attracted to that style.

    Um, did you somehow miss the question? What part of "Rhythym BASED music "did you not understand?

    Better re-read your Bible then apply it to all aspects of life according to practicality and principle.
     
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    I will have to sk you to clarify what is "appropiate" and what makes it inappropiate to help establish "appropiate"?

    Wouldn't the association of the driving beat and the bodily actions demand some sort of conclusion as to whether or not it is sexual/fleshy?

    Sometimes I cannot believe what I am having to address in these discussions!:sleep:
     
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    YOU stated that rhythmic music causes sexual movements. I stated is does not whith me. Therefore you FACT is incorrect. You may chose to reword your FACT that "sometimes" in "some people"rythmic musci cause sexual movements and I would believe it. But as stated it is not a fact.
     
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    Bible, Sal... Not your misguided notions....

    Either post scripture.. or quit wasting bandwith declaring your opinions to be equal with God's word.

    Where in the Bible does it condemn ryhthem?

    If it is not in there, then you should apologize.
     
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    There is no Bible answer Tim, that is obvious.

    It is only opinion, end of story.

    There will not be a Bible basis posted here. I am certain of that.
     
  6. Salamander

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    Music is to prepare the heart for the message. I have chosen two songs for tonights service that go along with the message God laid on my heart for tonight.

    I am going to preach with the people concerned about the Honour God deserves. I am NOT going to entertaion any group of people according to any particular persuasion.

    It's all about the message we're sending.

    Here is a "non" baptist's view I just received via PM, and I KNOW they have the proper perspective and ARE persuaded by the RIGHT Person!:smilewinkgrin: :
    Jump it, [crude comments deleted], or Bump it!:godisgood:
     
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    Good post!

    My concern is that when what is clearly the music based upon the driving beat as best described as "rhythym BASED" is "adopted" into worship, we see how it DOES effect the people and HOW the world views it as conformity to THEIR expectations and NOT God's.
     
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    Quote me. I said CERTAIN styles effect sexuality, wake up!
    Therefore it only applies to your little utopian mentality excluding yourself from the rest of the world and you've become a hermit.
    Twisted again aren't "we"?
     
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    There is the quote.

    Where was this proved? [/QUOTE]please provide the link, verse, etc

    If music does not effect all people the same how can it be evil or good? Music in and of itself is neutral. It is just sound. by adding lyrics one can make it scriptural or evil.

    Evidently all of it. What is Rhytmic based music. Please give me an example. Is "Amazing Grace" rhytmic based? How about "Be thou my vision" or maybe something newer by the Gaither's, Kutless, or casting crowns. Are we really talking about Rhytim or time. Somone please give me a song that is rhymic based and one that is not. Where is the line drawn between the two?

    Been ther, done that. Nothing about "Rythmic music" was found.

    Sal, you will probably find that I live as "Old fashioned" a life as you do. However, there is NO scripture that condems music in any way shape or form. Lyrics you can make an argument for. Some music is appropriate for church, some is not. However, you can not show me where any music is sinful, worldly, or any other definition you want to use.
     
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    If YOU would stop operating from the same mindset YOU claimed almost caused YOUR departure from the BB then you wouldn't have responded to me, AGAIN, with such disdain.

    I have never said the Bible condemns rhythym and the question is far beyond the confines you'd like to place it within.

    For the thrid time, the question is about RHYTYM BASED MUSIC as defined by C4K.

    It is the hard,cold, facts of reality you're stumbling on, demanding the Bible and the God who inspired it to bow to you to excise a portion of Scripture to SPELL IT OUT !

    What ever happened to a people who are supposed to be taught of God according to precepts and principles in examples?
     
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    Yup, on the same page here. I do not think all music is appropriate for church. Our music is very conservative. Part of it is preference, part an identification issue, but I cannot claim that the Bible teaches that rhythm based music weaknes the spiritual side of man.

    Why? Because the Bible doesn't teach it.
     
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    please provide the link, verse, etc

    :laugh: Then why the bodily response?

    Your ideal of the nuetrality of music denies the reality of where music originates and how it is distinguished by its locale.


    You're carrying on an arguement with some one else by naming out specifics not applicable here.

    Show me any "tribal" music that doesn't incorporate the driving beat/rhythym based music?

    I'll have to ask YOU to clarify this.:smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Then you're admitting that your church is led by tradition and not of God.:sleep:

    If it's not "appropiate" tells us apart from tradition, that started somewhere, biblically, hopefully, what makes it that way?

    Could it be the old, "can't see the forest because of the trees" issue?:saint:
     
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    I deal with this issue a LOT. I attend small FWB churches where most beleive that the only spiritual music is what they listen to. Which is generally hymns and Southern Gosple with a very small dose of Bluegrass.

    <rant>I hear preachers preach on this "modern Contempory Music" and how ungodly it is. I am an Assistant pastor and have hear the Pastor say this very thing. I play (barely) Acoustic Guitar and sing some contempory songs in the services and the same people come to me and say how much they love the song and where did I get it. Did you write that? etc. I just laugh and tell them it is a contempory song by such and such. People need to learn. God works in all sorts of people and all sorts of music. He didn't stop inspiring song leaders 200 years ago, 100 years ago or even 25 years ago. He's still on his throne and still God. Not just my little private version of such </rant>
     
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    Well, I didn't say all our music was old, just conservative :). We are also not bound by one school's approved music.

    Just trying to use Bible standards, not man's opinions.
     
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    Then by your estimation: God is capable of inspiring music until this day but only inspired His word in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic.:laugh: Then you admit you played this music with an acoustic guitar, but where were the drums which make up "RHYTHYM BASED MUSIC" and the "DRIVING BEAT"?:sleep:

    BTW, I belive I would stop placing so much emphasis on what people "like" and what you should know is according to the solemn sound as laid out in Scripture.

    Define "solemnity", then define a "driving beat":thumbs:
     
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    Then my estimation was right, you're bound by tradition instead of principle.

    May I suggest you consider Bible precepts and apply sound reason according to principle vs what you're attemtping, in futility, as "man's opinions"?
     
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    BTW the world is spelled rhythm.

    There have been about 10 different spellings in this thread alone - only one is correct :).
     
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    Guess you must have been listening to some of 'that music' when you made those comments, huh?
     
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    From a person perspective, I like hymns for church services. People are familar with them, they are easy to sing as a group, and the LYRICS deal with sunject matter appropriate to the setting. I do a great deal of Video montage stuff for Churches, sports, etc and some of the songs used with the live action are too fast for the church setting or the lyrics are of a different nature. The songs are fine in the context used, but would be out of place in the worship service. When we do VBS for small children we use childish songs. Great in context, not for adult worship. I hope this is clear. I do not know how to make it more so.
     
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