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Rythym does what for the body?

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  1. thegospelgeek

    thegospelgeek New Member

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    I can spell it 10 different ways in one post. My attention to detail is pathetic.
     
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    Physician, heal thyself!
     
  3. thegospelgeek

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    An acoustic guitar is a rhythm instument. (Yea, I spelled it rite)
     
  4. Salamander

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    Nope, I let the Great Physician heal my misunderstanding of the world and its music styles. I then abstain from such folly.:tongue3:
     
  5. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    You are being extremely clear and well reasoned to any logical thinker. I appreciate your balance.

    Since we are all so thick maybe someone could lay it out in black and white exactly where the Bible addresses music styles and express where it teaches that
    rhythm based music weakens our spiritual side?
     
  6. Salamander

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    Duh! Really? It's actually an instrument of accompaniment fitting into the rhythm section. It is also known in its use as a leading instrument in some music.:tonofbricks:
     
  7. Salamander

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    may be it is you that's dodging questions concerning clarity.

    "Black and White" are only the extremities of shades of grey. Apply principles and it does away with grey areas and reveals color. Black, nor white is a color: one is the absence of pigment and the other is the combination of all the pigments of color.
     
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    Now, aren't you glad that God led me to stick around..

    That way I can aggravate you by commanding you to provide scripture to back your assertations...

    If you don't have scripture.. then you need to back down.

    All you have is your opinion, and worldly philosophy.

    Show in black and white where it is prohibited...
    Especially since the Hebrews.. God's chosen people.. had instruments of rhythm.... And God accepted their praise.

    The reason you are getting mad and bothered is because you are spouting a doctrine that cannot be biblically based.

    You have become indoctrinated not educated....

    A person that is educated remains cool when asked to show proof...
    A person that has been indoctrinated heats up when asked to show proof because they cannot do so... and they feel threatened... so they lash out at the person asking for proof....

    An indoctrinated person believes if they yell something loud enough it becomes true....

    So, I am asking you again, as C4K has asked...

    Give it to us from the Bible... NOT your opinion.
     
  9. thegospelgeek

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    No offense intended but I've got to ask you Sal. Do you really beleive the stuff you say or are you just playing with us? I get the feeling that you are just pulling strings much like a shock jock on a late night radio show.
     
  10. I Am Blessed 24

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    As I suggested in the previous thread. Pick up a copy of "The Music of Jubal" at the library or your Christian bookstore.

    It has plenty of examples and Scripture to support what some are calling nothing but a theory.
     
  11. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Why not just share the scriptures that are so obvious?

    Read all the books, heard all the lectures, seen the videos.

    I have never seen where the Bible teaches that rhythm based music weakens man's spiritual nature.

    We may have many valid reasons to choose more 'conservative' music in our services. Societal, preferential, whatever. That's fine and no onen should be critical of our choices, but lets make sure that we have a Bible basis for what we call biblical.
     
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    My teens will tell you that rock music and rebellion do not go hand in hand. Of course SOME music can go hand in hand but it's more of the lyrics and not the music itself. My daughters listen to Christian rock and lots of worship stuff because of their work on the worship team and they are far from rebellious (unless you call a messy room rebellious but it's messy because they're busy between school, church and friends. Yeah, my rebellious 18 year old has been ministering to a young woman at her secular college (majoring in art - a definite worldly pursuit). I really pray for her...

    As for those who have been sinners in the CCM world, that's happening everywhere - even amongst the greatest ministers there are. My husband was told when he went into the ministry that there are 3 places that Satan will get a man to ruin his ministry - money, sex and power. Yes, men fall - but that doesn't mean that what they're doing is wrong but that their heart is sinful. IFB pastors have fallen - does that mean being an IFB pastor is wrong?

    I know men in the world of music who are faithful men of God who have such hearts for the Lord. We had Charlie Hall at our church a few years ago and when they were just about to go on stage, my husband was in tremendous pain in his foot (he was just post surgery if I remember correctly - after a serious fall off our roof). They delayed the worship time to surround my husband, lay hands on him and pray for healing and a release of pain. To this day, he's still in contact with some of the band members and they still pray for my husband and his ministry and have come to NY with a burden to reach the lost youth for Christ. These are the real deal.

    You can't lump everything into "sinful" and not "sinful" where God has not done so. Yes, for some rock music is a sin because of their background. Just as for some, being around others who drink could be a sin because of their background. It's helpful to understand Scripture to get this concept. I think Paul addresses this issue, huh?
     
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    I did a Google on Song of Jubal and found alot of info on evil backbeats and offbeats etc. But nothing that supported it from the Bible.

    Allow me to play a guessing game here.

    This movement probably started in the 40's or 50's and involved a lot of references to "negro music" and them "coloreds" not to mention the "hippie punks".

    Music witha strong beat was mentally associated with these wordly groups and therefore not what God wanted. What we are debating is a conditioned response from our culture and NOT a biblical truth.

    My guess is that if Sal heard an eastern song he would associate it with islam or Hindu's and therefore it could never be associated with God. Yet the music of our Bible was more than likely very much the same.

    Link To Amazon
     
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    Umm - I don't see anyone saying that music is Scripture.

    "Inspired" regarding the Word of God means that God breathed out the words.

    Music is not "inspired" in the same way but "influenced" instead. It helps to understand the definition of words, huh?

    As for driving beat? When I had a broken belt in my tire, it had a very nice driving beat but I certainly didn't come home looking for any activity with my husband. ;)
     
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    The Bible mentions psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. What was it saying? Were the psalms rhythmic? What of hymns?

    What's a spiritual song as opposed to a carnal song?

    I don't want your opinion, I want what the BIBLE says.
     
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    Why do you say that?
     
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    Because it's pretty close to the truth.
     
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    You sure? What does the BIBLE say?
     
  19. Steven2006

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    I'm not sure if this thread has either settled or accomplished anything, but one thing it has done is got this song stuck in my head now, thanks

    Oh, I've got rhythm
    I've got music........Who could ask for anything more?
     
  20. paidagogos

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    A biased question?

    Well, what does the Bible say about hyponosis?

    What are you asking? Are you asking if the Bible says that hymns, psalms, etc. were rhythmic? Are you asking what the Bible says about music?

    Well, friend, the Bible doesn't exactly say, "Thou shalt not listen to this type of music." However, it does give us principles by which we judge music and worship.

    Most people are more concerned about the music that pleases them rather than the music that pleases and honors God.

    Would you agree that all the elements of music must be consistent? In other words, the various components must be considered as contributing to the whole of music.

    Does the music honor and glorify God or does it appeal primarily to human emotions and sensuality?

    Is the music consistent in all of its elements including words, accompaniment, etc.?

    Does the music carry culturally negative or evil connotations?

    What is the effect of the music upon the listener?

    Does the music teach or protray themes consistent with Scripture?

    Do you think rhythm arouses passions and sensual drives within us? I do know that certain churches in CA with heavily rhythmic music had the reputation among Navy guys as good places to pick up hot girls. Now, you judge if this is a good thing.
     
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