Sabbath for Gentiles

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  1. BobRyan

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    How then to oppose this part of the word of God - some may ask.

    Well if we ignore anything in the OT where people ALSO worship God via animal sacrifice - then we get to toss out a lot of what the NT authors keep referring to as "scripture".

    Such eisegetical methods simply do not work.

    The fact that the saints of Heb 11 ALSO offered animal sacrifices is no proof at all that the moral LAW of God is deleted.

    You 'still' should not take God's name in vain - even though it is never quoted in the OT - even though saints in the OT that did not take God's name in vain ALSO offered animal sacrifices.

    The really "sad" part of the post above where the author tries to refute God's Word in Is 56 is that it was "pretended" that only those who keep the Bible Sabbath would even notice these texts that point to the moral obligation on even gentiles to keep the Sabbath Commandment.

    So then - is it really true that only those who keep the Bible Sabbath would notice this?

    in Christ,

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    here we see an example of a gentile - pro-Sunday preacher who notices that the Sabbath commandment is for Gentiles -- even from Eden onward.


    And of course that statement -- the quote does not happen without at least some form of challenge to me.



     
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    So clearly some strong feelings either way on both sides of that issue exist.

    I would argue that when these pro-SUNDAY scholars argue in favor of the TEN Commandments as does Moody they are right on a number of points - but they are wrong on one point.

     
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    Some may think I am selecting out D.L. Moody as the only person to suggest this bending/edit/morphing of the Sabbath commandment "given in Eden" as the 7th day - to become week-day-1 after the cross.

    But there are others - such a C.H.Spurgeon in his revised/edited version of the "Baptist Confession of Faith". --

    And of course section 19 of the Westminster Confession of Faith agrees fully with that part of the "Baptist Confession of Faith".
     
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    yet Christ was not at all pleased with even the most minor edit/modify of one of the Ten Commandments -

    [FONT=&quot]Mark 7

    7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
    8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
    9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
    10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
    11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
    12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
    13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.


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    [FONT=&quot]When Christ speaks of one of the Ten Commandments He tells us that they are the “Word of God” – the “Commandment of God” and “Moses said

    [FONT=&quot]Notice that in thi[FONT=&quot]s case in Mark 7 the Jews [FONT=&quot]are "making stuff [FONT=&quot]up" in their [FONT=&quot]baptizing the cups and pots - regar[FONT=&quot]ding what you [FONT=&quot]"eat and [FONT=&quot]drink" - regar[FONT=&quot]ding food and drink - being con[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]taminated[/FONT] by sin - Christ in Mark 7 declares that to be [FONT=&quot]nonsense even before the cross.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
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    Just wondering what the next 5 titles you have selected for threads on Sabbath worship?
     
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    Some people have their own titles - hard to tell that they are even talking about the Sabbath from their titles - at least these kinds of threads have titles that tell you what the subject is to start with.

    If the Bible is of interest on this subject - then the title is helpful.
     
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    What Bob can't do is to demonstrate on a personal level, how to keep the Sabbath in a Biblical way. I have asked him a number of times and am only answered with complete silence.
    Thus my conclusion: Bob does not "keep the Sabbath." He only pretends.
     
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    Romans 8:5-9 says that the lost do not submit to the Law of God - neither indeed "can they".

    But the saints by contrast (according to Romans 8 and Romans 6) need not walk in rebellion against the Law of God.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     

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