I was looking at a church's beliefs online and they mentioned that they believed that you could receive the Spirit after salvation instead of at Salvation. In other words, a person could get saved and not have the Spirit indwelling them till later. Their proof of this was in this passage. It happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the upper country and came to Ephesus, and found some disciples. He said to them, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" And they said to him, "No, we have not even heard whether there is a Holy Spirit." And he said, "Into what then were you baptized?" And they said, "Into John's baptism." Paul said, "John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus." When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking with tongues and prophesying. There were in all about twelve men. (Acts 19:1-7) Now, my question is this. Were these people already saved and received the Spirit after salvation, or were these people not saved and were saved here? One thing I noticed is that they are believing in a future Jesus. (vs3, 4). After that they were baptized in the name of Jesus and were filled with the Spirit. One other passage that comes to mind is Paul in Romans 8:9, "You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him." This passage says that if you don't have the Spirit, you are not saved. 1. Were these people saved? 2. If they were, does this still apply for today since we now have the full relaxation of God and they didn't?