Sally Ride, dead at 61

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  1. Magnetic Poles

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    America's first female astronaut, Sally Ride, lost her battle with pancreatic cancer today.
     
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    My guess is that we will see more and more of these people getting cancer as they are constantly subjected to some high doses of radiation while in space and if there are sun flares it is worst although they do have a special compartment on the space station that they go in when one happens, but the rest of the time they are getting high doses.
     
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    Really? I don't think the evidence is there to support your supposition.

    Seven (now eight) of those astronauts who have passed on passed on from cancer- of the others (43) who have died most have died from accidents related to the space program.

    24 astronauts that are still living are over the age of 70! John Glenn is 91 years old.
     
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    The longer they are up the higher the possibility of cancer. Here is a chart showing what they get compared to some on earth.
    http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q2906.html
    Also to be better informed you might want to read this from NASA;
    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2005/09may_mysteriouscancer/
     
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    I was saddened by the loss of this American hero.

    HankD
     
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    I'm just saying the facts do not support the so-called science. As a matter of fact, the article from NASA did not say anything like you are conjecturing -

    "Consider the following: Some astronauts, veterans of long space missions, have "significant chromosome aberrations" in their blood cells1. These aberrations may be "associated with the development of cancer," says Dicello, but they do not, by themselves, cause cancer. For that to happen, cells with aberrations must undergo a series of further mutations."

    "Cells often react in unexpected ways to radiation, notes Dicello. For example, there's a puzzling phenomenon known as adaptive response. Sometimes, when tissue is exposed to damaging radiation, it not only repairs itself, but also learns to repair itself better next time. How that works is still being investigated.Furthermore, radiation damage is not always proportional to the amount of radiation experienced. "Our research shows some unusual things," says Dicello. Some types of chromosome aberrations are very sensitive to radiation. "Deliver a low dose, and they take off." Other types of aberrations require much higher doses. Researchers are still trying to sort out which is which … and why?"


    "While researchers know something about how cells respond to each kind of radiation separately, some of Dicello's work suggests that exposure to these two types of radiation mixed together could produce as-yet unpredictable results.
    The damage could be less than the two kinds added together -- or it could be more! There could, perhaps, be an adaptive response in which lightweight solar protons stimulate repair processes to help reduce the effects of the heavy cosmic ray ions. Or something totally unexpected could happen." (emphasis mine)
     
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    No, what I said was correct. You are just in denial and even the NASA article proves that.
     
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    :rolleyes: suit yourself :)
     
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    And NASA :wavey:
     
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    I'm not into the "first woman" malarkey, but I appreciate what all the astronauts do and did.

    She must have had quite a ride. I can only imagine seeing the earth in my rearview mirror. Rest in peace, Sally.:applause:
     
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    Sally Ride was also the first gay person in space.
     
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    Was wondering when one of you guys was going to bring that up.

    I am sorry for her suffering from pancreatic cancer. That's a tough one. I am proud (not prideful) of her being the first female astronaut - it's not malarkey to me - competent and gifted women being welcomed into all sorts of formerly male-only careers.

    And I am saddened deeply by her lifestyle.

    I hope no one will make any snide remarks - because at this point she cannot pay a bigger price than the one she paid for the last 18 months and the one she is paying now.



     
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    This is something I've been thinking about lately and this thread gives me the perfect opportunity to say it. I support civil unions for gay people. We can have debates over whether committed homosexual relationships are right or wrong, but they are most certainly real and I believe they should be recognized by the government. I support amending the Constitution of the State of Florida to allow same-sex couples to enter into civil unions which have the same rights, benefits, and responsibilities as marriage.
     
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    Is there anything in the constitution to prevent it, now ? Why ammend the consitution ?
     
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    Article I, Section 27:

    Marriage defined.—Inasmuch as marriage is the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife, no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized.
     
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    Thanx, Paul.
     

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