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Sarah Palin's personal e-mail hacked, displayed ?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bro. Curtis, Sep 18, 2008.

  1. LeBuick

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    Because they were contrary to our civil liberties.

    Just like I don't want the police kicking in my door because they "think" I've done something wrong.

    The law says present the basis of your accusation to a judge and let him decide if you have legal grounds for more than suspicion. I believe that layer of protection is there for a reason and is the only privacy protection we have. I won't give that up willingly.
     
  2. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    The point was that the post I replied implied that only the left would do this. Both sides are rotten.
     
  3. LeBuick

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    I think a good AMEN goes here... :godisgood: :thumbs:
     
  4. Revmitchell

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    No it isn't it is about illegally hacking her email. period
     
  5. donnA

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    I don't know what was in the emails, and don't care. I do know that illegally obtained evidence can not be used, should anyone wish to charge someone, you have to have a warrant to take someone's email if they do not hand it over to you. Now they just need to know who did the hacking so they can be charged. Or do they know already? Let me guess, because it's politics nothing will happen.
     
  6. Revmitchell

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    The Libs are on a witch hunt. And they will use whatever means they can. This is part of that culture of corruption in the Democratic party
     
  7. Crabtownboy

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    There is a site claiming they will hack passwords for you for $100 and they claim it is legal. I do not know if this site is in the US or some other country. I do not know if their claim that it is legal is true or not. If you do a search on "hacking email" you will find many sites. Legal? Illegal? I don't know.
     
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    You are defending the thief by trying to make the theft the victim's fault.

    Typical liberal thinking. One of the reasons our legal system is such a mess.

    Criminals have more rights than victims and their crimes can be rationalized by claiming the victim left the door unlocked, shouldn't have been out at that time of night, shouldn't have been dressed so provacatively, should have had their email account protected better, ad nauseum... :BangHead:
     
  9. Revmitchell

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    It is a Federal crime to hack into another computer. The Secret Service is investigating this. The penalty is 0-10 years in jail.
     
  10. Crabtownboy

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    I do not doubt what you said is true. Can you give me a link? I'd like to read more about this.

    Her Yahoo accounts have been deleted. If a court pursues this matter the deletion could be seen an destruction of evidence. I hope it will not come to this.

    In this day and age she, you, I, everyone should know that e-mail messages are not safe. This should be a guideline for all of us to remember.
     
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  11. donnA

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    Those emails could not considered evidence ever, since they were illegally obtained, and after them being revealed they could not be obtained by search warrant and used as evidence. Because they first came to light illegally. So no evidence was destroyed.
     
  12. Crabtownboy

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    That would be up to a court to decide and the court may want to see the e-mails for other reasons in other cases.
     
  13. donnA

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    It would still be challenged as being illegally obtained. They can not be used, a court could not legally allow them. They may want to see them, but they can't use them. Otherwise any evidence illegally obtained evidence could be presented in courst anytime on any case. It isn't done.
     
  14. carpro

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    Another red herring.

    The only reason a court will need to see these emails is to convict a hacker.
     
  15. Crabtownboy

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    Not necessarily. Do some of your own research and you will discover why that may not be the only reason.
     
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    No. I won't chase your red herring.

    http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.htm

    Reporting Computer, Internet-Related, or Intellectual Property Crime
    Internet-related crime, like any other crime, should be reported to appropriate law enforcement investigative authorities at the local, state, federal, or international levels, depending on the scope of the crime.

    Citizens who are aware of federal crimes should report them to local offices of federal law enforcement.

    Reporting Computer Crime
    Reporting Intellectual Property Crime
    Reporting Computer Hacking, Fraud and Other Internet-Related Crime

    The primary federal law enforcement agencies that investigate domestic crime on the Internet include: the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the United States Secret Service, the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) , the United States Postal Inspection Service, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) . Each of these agencies has offices conveniently located in every state to which crimes may be reported. Contact information regarding these local offices may be found in local telephone directories. In general, federal crime may be reported to the local office of an appropriate law enforcement agency by a telephone call and by requesting the "Duty Complaint Agent."

    Each law enforcement agency also has a headquarters (HQ) in Washington, D.C., which has agents who specialize in particular areas. For example, the FBI and the U.S. Secret Service both have headquarters-based specialists in computer intrusion (i.e., computer hacker) cases.
    To determine some of the federal investigative law enforcement agencies that may be appropriate for reporting certain kinds of crime, please refer to the following table:

    Type of Crime Appropriate federal investigative law enforcement agencies
    Computer intrusion (i.e. hacking) FBI local office
    U.S. Secret Service
    Internet Crime Complaint Center

    Password trafficking FBI local office
    U.S. Secret Service
    Internet Crime Complaint Center
     
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    I guess that answers the question about hacking passwords. it's a crime.
     
  18. Revmitchell

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    The fact that she is a Presidential Candidate raises the level of the crime.
     
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    The fact that an Obama supporter did it means they will get away with it. Gotta get Palin fired on the troopergate fairy tale.
     
  20. Tooblessed

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    This is FACT? Perhaps I missed something... I don't mind links. :laugh:
     
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