Satanic Symbolism....

not that I'm saying it is, but if they want to be consistent as you say, they'd have to admit it is pagan.

 

I wonder if the op uses paganism by using the names of the days and months.

http://www.therefinersfire.org/days_months1.htm


the cross goes back to ancient babylon, and is a part of paganism
the christian fish also has pagan orgins
http://www.nazarite.net/symbolism.html

Lots more info out there on pagainism in daily life, and the op seems to be accepting of it.

 

ShotGun, you started the o/p.

Though you didn't say anything about all the other inherited Paganism of our culture it is relevent because it pemeates everything.

The KJV when first released had Pagan symbols in it.
It also included the Apocrypha which the Church of Rome used in support of the Pagan practice of prayers for the dead (for instance).

To be strictly legalistic, the KJV cannot be printed without the Apocrypha.

It would be difficult for the CoE/Crown to enforce those laws here in the States.

Also, there are those branches of Christianity which will not use either a crucifix or a cross because of it's supposed Pagan roots.

What I personally am saying is that we cannot escape completely from these symbols even in the church and in/on the KJV as well.

Are you married and do you wear a wedding band? That has a Pagan origin.

Take a dollar bill out of your wallet. The eye above the Great Pyramid is the all seeing eye of Horus-Isis. Will you not use these dollars anymore?


HankD

 

The point is that Apollos of the NT did not change his name though he had been named by his parents after a false god.

It didn't matter to him, he knew who he believed in.

Just as so-called Pagan symbols of the past shouldn't matter to you because they are used by some book publishers including those used in the AD1611 KJV.

HankD

 

Donna when it first came out the symbol was on it.. but is not on newer ones...

SGW... The symbol stands for the trinity... If you don't want to believe this.. believe what you want... but before you condemn it.. be prepared to condemn all pagan related things that go on in churches...

At weddings "The wedding march" You know.... Here comes the bride.. big fat and wide... OOOOPs... sorry.. wrong lyrics!!! ROFL... anyway.. that is a pagan song.

As is your wedding ring on your left hand.. Tell your wife you are not going to wear your ring because it is pagan!!! Try it.. NO don't.. I don't want to be responsible for the lump on your head that she will give you!!!

LOL...

My point... The symbol has been used to symbolize the Trinity.. .No different than the sequence of letters that symbolize the same concept.. those letters in order are T-R-I-N-I-T-Y Each letter is a symbol that is connected to a sound we humans make.

When those letters are put together in a sequence the "word" then becomes a symbol of something.. In this case the concept of God being 3 in one.

While we are at it.. if we were to go back 2500 yrs ago... and someone would see the Cross.. it would be a Roman image... but somewhere through the yrs, it has become a Christian symbol.

 

but it's not on any of the ones I own, and people keep trying to tell me it is when I know it isn't.

 

Yeah, and what's with that cross thingie some Christians wear around their neck?
Wasn't it a pagan symbol of torture and death!

Mixing paganism with Christianity, it shouldn't happen

Rob

 

your talking about pagainism and you seem to be really picky about it, some pagainism is ok for you,.
We seem to have bought 5 really good ones with no symbol, all different bibles too, none are the same study bible.

 

that would be ebcause you keep trying to tell me my bible shave this symbol in them and they do not.
you can't seem to understand that.
as Tim said originally they did, prehaps they do not now.
but one of mine is almost 20 years old, and no symbol.

 

I believe you might want to check the spelling, here.

True, there is a similarity, but the spellings are not identical.

The pagan name and diety to whom you are referring [ Ἀπόλλων—Apóllōn or Ἀπέλλων—Apellōn or ] is spelled in this manner.

However, the name of the Christian apostle is spelled in this manner. [Ἀπολλῶς or απολλως ]

Ed

 

Symbols are often a very murky thing. The history of many symbols is unknown and often the information on them is inaccurate or just guessed at.

The meaning of symbols changes with time and culture. The Nazi symbol came from Hinduism; the pentagram at one time represented the five wounds of Christ and was only adopted by modern Witchcraft in the latter half of the 20th century.

This particular Celtic symbol being asked was used to represent the Trinity. It is not by nature necessarily a pagan symbol, nor would a New Ager or Neopagan think that you were were one of them if you had this symbol on a necklace.

I deal a lot with symbols in my ministry and am asked about them. One must view a symbol in context of time and culture. For example, some symbols today are clearly pagan such as the pentagram or the yin-yang symbol. They do carry meaning for many non-Christians today and as a Christian, I would not wear these even if I wanted to re-define them in a Christian way (and even though the pentagram at one time represented the 5 wounds of Christ, it would not be seen that way by most today). The symbols themselves are neutral, but their meaning in this culture is clear to those who use them.

Some symbols are ambiguous - for example, a crescent moon, maybe with a star or stars. This could just represent the night sky or something like that in a certain context, but the crescent moon also means something to Wiccans and Goddess worshipers. So I might have an item of clothing that includes some stars and half-moons that look like the sky, but I would not wear a crescent moon around my neck, which is more of a statement and likely to be taken the wrong way by certain people.

The ankh (cross topped by a loop) is found in Egyptian tombs and associated with Isis and other Egyptian gods. Although it resembles the Coptic cross, I am uncomfortable with it because in the U.S. cutlure, the ankh is popular in the Wiccan, New Age, and vampire (they are not real vampires of course but it is an undergournd subculture) communities. I would never wear an ankh.

And although the cross is normally seen as Christian, many non-Christians wear it either as decorative (the hip-hop/rap culture) or as meaning something else to the wearer, but this does not keep me from wearing it.

 

Just take all these dollars you are not willing to use and send them to me.

I'll gladly start a scholarship fund for Christian Education through our local Church where we will use them for a good cause. :thumbs:

Ed

 

Oh , I use them because like Apollos I know whom I have believed. And yes the name Apollos has several spellings.

Many Christians today have names coming out of our Pagan cultural roots.

e.g. Some christian women are name "dianne" or "dianna", a name connected to "diana of the Ephesians".
People don't know that and don't care as well they shouldn't care.

It's a similar thing, we know whom we have believed.

As another "for instance" when one uses the word "forunate" one is attributing the "good fortune" to the goddess fortuna.

http://www.thaliatook.com/OGOD/fortuna.html

Does your church calendar proclaim that you have a prayer meeting on Wednesday (which is Woden's Day) ot Thursday (Thor's day)?

Everyone understands that these prayer meetings are not to these false gods.

So everyone should realize that symbols which might have had one meaning at one time do not necessarily have the same today and/or who cares?

That is my point.

HankD

 

Good post Marcia!.. This sums up the way I feel.

 

Thanks, TT! I'm glad to know somebody read it!!