Satan's Strategy

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  1. Truth Files

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    Humans began to organize into cities shortly after the flood. These units of human habitation were formed for the purpose of self-government apart from the Lord's providence and direction. [Genesis 11:1-9]

    The units included a king, government, political structure, offensive and defensive military, and cultural, economic, and false religious systems.

    Further development led to larger city/states which eventually grew into the size of empires, usually through conquests and various alliances.

    The symbolic terms used to describe this organization are Mystery Babylon the Great, the "woman", the "great city part", and all of the other cities in the world. [Revelation 17, 18]

    She is the nucleus of the 7 heads [dominions] of the beast of Revelation 13 and 17, and her existence and influence will be worldwide at the time of the end. [Revelation 17:15]

    She is the symbol and sum total of all organized unsaved humanity that has separated from the Lord for the purpose of avoiding His rule. She behaves in ways that are self-deceiving and this effect is spread throughout her presence. [Revelation 17, 18]

    Her great city part [civilization] is dominating and is connected economically with all of her other cities in the world at the time of the end. [Revelation 17:15-18]

    The Lord is totally against this type of organizational behavior since it tends to separate humans from Him. This can prohibit the necessary relationship humans must have with Him in order to insure their eternal life and future.

    Israel and the Gentiles have both gone their way of self-determination without Him and this will always result in total failure.

    Satan directly exploits this organizational behavior of humanity in many different ways. His objective is the destruction of human existence in one way or another and to place himself above the Lord as ruler of the earth.

    Satan does this by his own direct involvement as described in Revelation 12. He also includes the agency of two other significant fallen angelics at the time of the end.

    These are Abaddon-Apollyon, the first beast of Revelation 13 and 17, and the false prophet, the second beast of Revelation 13.

    The symbolic beasts describing four different successive Middle Eastern dominions [kingdoms, empires] and associated king positions in Daniel's vision include four symbolic animal beasts, not angelic beasts. [Daniel 7]

    Abaddon-Apollyon's focus is on the human kings who occupy the "position" of the king ruling over a kingdom of humans. He has influenced the kings of his past 5 Middle Eastern dominions through subordinate angelic princes, and will do this directly through the little horn/beast. [Daniel 7:7, 8:9; 11:36-45; Revelation 13:1, 17:8]

    Examples of these kings of the ancient past were Sargon, Senacherib, Nebuchadnezzar, Darius, Cyrus, Alexander the Great, and Antiochus IV. Many kings filled the king positions of the ancient empires of the Middle East.

    A dominion, head, or mountain describes the geographical extent of the human king's control over city/states, nations, and empires. [Daniel 2:36-38, 2:44-45; Revelation 13:1, 13:3, 17:7-13]

    The king "position" is the symbolic position of the king, and is not used exclusively in reference to any particular human king. [Revelation 17:9-10, 17:12]

    Satan's strategy for the time of the end will include Abaddon-Apollyon, the false prophet, and 11 contemporary human kings. The symbol of the horn is used to describe a human king who is linked to satanic influence.

    The little horn of Daniel's visions will be ruling the sixth "smaller" dominion at the beginning of the 70th week [the Lord's coming hour of trial]. He will expand the sixth into the seventh which will include the other ten horns [kings]. His power and authority will come from satan and Abaddon-Apollyon.

    The ten kings that share power with the little horn are the same kings associated with Daniel's fourth animal beast and the seventh head of the beast in Revelation 13 and 17.

    Three of the 10 kings will be overthrown and replaced by the little horn. These will then rule the divided kingdom of iron and clay with the little horn. [Daniel 7:24; Revelation 17:12-14]

    The initial set of these ten kings will exist in the Middle East at the beginning of the 70th week decreed for Israel. The little horn will appear among them and those of his choosing will rule with him. [Daniel 7:7, 7:24]

    The little horn will remove and replace three of these kings in the process of consolidating his Middle Eastern dominion. [Daniel 7:8; Revelation 17:12-18]

    He will be incarnated by Abaddon-Apollyon and will rule the seventh dominion of iron and clay. Abaddon-Apollyon and the final set of ten will be challenged by the Lord and destroyed at Armageddon. [Revelation 17:11, 19:11-20]

    Satan's strategy will also include his false prophet whose mission will be to lead the cult of Abaddon-Apollyon and offset the two witnesses [prophets] that the Lord will send to Israel during the 70th week decreed for the nation. [Revelation 13:11-18]

    This beast is another fallen angel like Abaddon-Apollyon who will incarnate two human religious leaders [two horns]. The primary characteristic of this creature is that he acts like a lamb [a religion of "peace"], but speaks like a dragon.

    His promotion of the cult religion of the first beast as a god is related to a religion that appears to be one of peace .... but the preaching and actions will be satanic.

    This religion will be represented as peaceful, but will actually incorporate hatred and destruction toward those who will not submit to its doctrines. [Revelation 13:15-17]

    These two religious leaders will appear in the land of Israel during the time of Israel's occupation by the little horn and his followers. [Revelation 13:11]

    They will direct attention to the first beast, Abaddon-Apollyon, who will be incarnated in the little horn, as the eighth and final king of the Gentiles.

    The Lord will use the little horn and the ten other kings (horns) to destroy the great city part of Mystery Babylon the Great in one day and this will take place shortly after the beginning of the 70th week [the tribulation period]. [Revelation 17:16-18]

    MBG's great city part will not be located in the Middle East where the little horn will have his base of operations. This great city [civilization] of the Gentiles [nations] will have a significant worldwide influence with regard to commerce and culture. [Revelation 18]

    Once out of the way, the little horn will begin to form and rule his seventh dominion which will include the conquering of the Middle East and the invasion and occupation of the land of Israel. [Daniel 8:9, 11:41]

    The Lord will then direct His wrath against satan, Abaddon-Apollyon, the little horn and his followers. This will lead to their destruction at the battle of Armageddon. [Revelation 14:9-11, 16:2, 16:10, 16:12].
     
  2. kyredneck

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    Amen, and amen.
     
  3. lastday

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    Truth Files,

    I realize I have a "low level of Scriptural understanding" as you wrote compared to you, but here I find only one sentence to take issue with you.
    You write:
    I especially like the way you characterize Mystery Babylon, the City, as a "mystery part of Great Babylon"...since it is a global System as well as City.

    However, what Scripture indicates the Ten Kings will destroy the City "shortly after the beginning of the 70th Week (70th "7")? Satan will be cast
    out of heaven at MID-POINT of the 70th "7". The Ten Kings will destroy
    Babylon (and "eat her flesh", i.e., confiscate her entire Network System) and
    "give their power and authority to the Beast for exactly 42 months"...1260 days. You should know this since you are so aware of the exact span of time
    allotted to the Beast...1260 days; but not 1290 days as you seem to think!
    Mel
     
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    I'm still amazed how he can take one bible character mentioned only one time in the bible and make him such a prominent figure in end times events. Truth Files is a great example of the danger of allowing one's imagination to run wild in the book of Revelation.
     
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    Is it Truth Files or Truth Flies?

    I think I like Truth Flies.

    Or maybe Truth Dies.
     
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    "Satan will be cast out of heaven at MID-POINT of the 70th "7"

    Mel,

    I think satan will be cast out at the beginning of the 70th week [Revelation 6:13] since I believe that all of the first 6 trumpets will blow in rapid fire at the beginning of the week for the setting

    I also think that the great city of MBG will be the first target of destrution of the tribulation period [Revelation 14:8] .... just after the sealing of the 144,000 which will occur at the beginning of the tribulation period [Revelation 7:1-8]

    It will take satan's beast in the little horn 1260 days to rise to his position of authority over the Middle East and Israel ..... then he will rule for 42 months [second 1260] unopposed .... this little horn will not just pop up at the middle of the 70th week .... he will appear on the earth at the beginning of the 70th week [Daniel 11:36-45; 12:7]
     
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    Thanks Kyredneck:
    "Truth Flies" but will not die; at least not until the Antichrist "takes peace from earth" at MID-POINT of the final "Seven"! Or maybe not until the 4th Horseman
    "spreads death over a quarter of the earth"!! For even though Seals 2 and 4 both occur prior to the 6th Seal, Truth Teller may be reluctant to admit that his
    "understanding of truth" puts Seal 6 AFTER the Four Apocalyptic Horsemen"!!!

    Now the Truth adds:
    I submit that there will be TWO Periods of Mid-East Peace before Antichrist
    takes over at Midweek...just 42 months before Christ destroys the power of the Evil Trio on the Day of the Lord...the single Day of God's Wrath!
    It's required since Mystery Babylon will be destroyed twice...first, by Ten Kings at Mid-Week and second, by global earthquakes at the end of the 70th "7"!!
    The first Peace-Period will be broken by "named" nations invading Israel from the North; the second Period will be broken at Babylon's first fall at Midweek!!!
    Mel
    "Two Periods of Peace Occur before Antichrist takes Peace from the Earth"
     
  8. Truth Files

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    Differences Mel

    I say that there will be no peace at all during the 2550 days

    You say there will be

    Give me your scriptures for peace during the tribulation period Mel

    There will be no peace until the Lord brings it [Micah 4:1-3; Micah 5:5-6]

    We also interpret the seals of the scroll differently

    You say events

    I say portents previewing conditions of the judgment evens of the tribulation period

    The judgments contained in the scroll will not open until the Lord removes all of the seals

    A scroll will not open unless all of the seals are broken

    Our views here are fundamentally different and these two differences along give us no common ground for discussion
     
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    I keep reading, "I believe," I believe," but when I read WHAT they believe, it is FAR from what scriptures tell us. For example, Satan, IS cast out of the heavenlies, but at the exact midpoint of the week. John makes that quite clear, for the verse before, states that those living in Judea (the woman) flees into the wilderness; EXACTLY what Jesus told them to do, when they see the abomination. Therefore, Rev.12:6 is seconds after the abomination and we know the abomination divides the week into two halves, so is at the exact midpoint. Therefore, Satan is cast down at the midpoint.

    Coop
     
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    Daniel
    12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

    This abomination is obviously not satan himself or his "antichrist" [Abaddon-Apollyon] .... or the little horn of Daniel's visions, a human king of the northern Middle East

    None of these will be "set up" and certainly not satan ... this abomination of desolation is a thing not a fallen angelic

    Satan will fall [be forced] from heaven at the very beginning of the coming 70th week decreed to begin his treck through the period [Revelation 6:13; 9:1; 12:7-12]

    He will be allowed to release Abaddon-Apollyon who is another fallen angel from the abyss .... this angelic will do satan's bidding on the earth during the tribulation period; he is the first beast recorded in 9:11; 11:7; 13:1-4; 17:8]

    So there is nothing in scripture to indicate that satan himself is the abomination of desolation that will be "set up" on the temple mount at the middle of the 70th week ... he is not and this idea makes no sense
     
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    Are we in Oz or Revelation or TF's Imagination

    That bout sums it up. It’s more surreal than Oz.

    But really, I sleep better at night just knowing Truth Flies (salute KY) is on point and ever diligent for Satan being cast out of heaven, seals being broken, and probably tornados and flying houses.

    Pass the popcorn please.


    “Your understanding of the inspiration of Scripture is utterly astounding!” Mel

    Why thank you Mel!
     

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