I have a pretty serious issue that I'm really confused about, and I'm wondering if you all could help me. It's about the use of force (violence) when it's to save lives. Obviously it's OK in war, because the state has authorized it. And it's OK when you're using force to protect people who are in your own family, obviously. But what about others? Like, if you see someone on the street who's about to be stabbed or something, and you have the ability to help, shouldn't you step in and maybe tackle the criminal, and even hurt him if that's what it will take to save the other's life? That's what I've always assumed we should do. I know it's up to the state and the police to carry out justice normally, but if they can't get there in time (or are uwilling to), I'd think force would be OK, right? But now...I was thinking about how this applies to abortion and abortionists. If unborn babies are as much human persons as everyone else, wouldn't the same ethic apply in terms of saving their lives by force if necessary? (which it is, since abortion is legal ) And in this case, the perpetrator would be the abortion doctor, right? Because we know he plans to murder many more babies in his career. So...and I know this seems crazy maybe, but...wouldn't it be OK to maybe "put out of commission" the abortionist? I don't mean kill, if at all possible. I just mean, injure so that he can't perform any more abortions and kill babies. Can someone please tell me why this would be wrong if you think it is? I just don't get it. It seems that if you say that using force on abortionists is wrong, you'd also have to say that using force on other (potential) murderers is wrong if they're about to kill someone. The only way you could say one is right and the other wrong is if you don't think the unborn baby is worth as much as the other person...but as Christians I don't think we believe that. So thanks in advance!