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Scare Tactics Do Work. Just Wait and SEE!!!!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Mar 3, 2009.

  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    The government should get at least a passing grade for the manner in which they are slowly taking this country down a road that ushers in economic socialism. And it will be welcomed with open arms as a result of shear panic when the economy can't recover.

    Twenty years ago [maybe a little longer?], I attended a seminar that discussed the "Disarming of America". The speaker shared that the country would be taken to a place where murders, suicide, gunfights, mass shootings, etc. would become so pronounced and horrifying, that the public would cry out for the government to do something, and that is when the government would implement "gun control."

    Well, we're not quite there yet, but, in some respects, they have brought the country to the point that we are about to "let them do whatever it takes" to turn this financial mess around. The model that this gentleman shared in regards to disarming America is actually being implemented in the arena of economic stability.

    England is crying out for some kind of a new "Global Order" in regard to the economic collapse; and, personally, I don't believe it will be too long before citizens around the world, and here in America, cry out for the very same thing. Perhaps a Global Financial Banking System, and common currency is the answer, especially for the West. Our daily losses in the arena of financial security is going to eventually start a panic that only a new world order and direction can quell. It may take an all out "coming together" of the EU and the America's to put an end to this historic collapse.

    Is it possible that this economic collapse will be the one central, earth changing, nerve rattling catastrophe that makes the majority of us believe it makes pure common sense to join Canada, Mexico and America in one common banking system and source of currency? If this is the vehicle that drive us to the gate of giving up our sovereignty, than we are just that much closer to the one world government that many believers are looking for, and that puts us just that much closer to the Rapture of the church.

    I am prayerfully waiting to see how this all pans out....and for me, it is beginning to look like we will need the world to come together and fix this financial mess. Surely, our old way of driving the economy is no longer working. Just yesterday, the Stock Market gave Obama an "F" in his first month as POTUS in regard to the economy. There is very little faith in anything that once propelled this nation's financial markets. It looks like we will need more than Trillion dollar bailouts every other month to get this nation and the rest of the world back on the road to financial security. Maybe capitalism has truly passed away?? If it has, may it RIP!!!:flower:

    This brings us back to the issue of gun control. I see the government leaning more, and more toward creating a scare tactic, through violence in our streets, and the panic that will follow this violence will lead the majority of citizens to approve such a wide sweeping Constitutional change with hardly a whimper of opposition.

    So, keep your eyes on the Eastern Sky, church....the times are a changin', and the day of the "Great Airlift" is closer than ever!

    Shalom,

    Pastor Paul:type:
     
  2. Magnetic Poles

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    Do scare tactics work? Well, they were used to put us in Iraq. Yellowcake in Africa? Cover your house with plastic and duct tape? Who was it that said that?

    A few months back, wasn't it you who said we would see the NAU and the "Amero" by the end of that weekend?
     
  3. ray Marshall

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    I have probably read the same report. I printed it off the APFN net page
    Jack McLamb, a former Sheriff or lawman had a attending audience where he was a speaker and credited a Professor of History, I will not name him because he spent time in prison for talking too much about how our government uses scare tatics and he also talked about how these people would be used to have the people demand help by our honorable government,Huh! to carry out this very plan. This professor has a good reputation and knows what he is talking about. He, of course has no job now.
     
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    And it will turn out to be another "French Revolution," They learn from History, but we dont!! We should all learn ablut how the French Revolution has been played out timt and time again.
     
  5. righteousdude2

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    Please!!!!

    If you want to quote me, check your source. I never said we'd see the NAU in place after any one particular weekend. What I said was, we'd go to bed "one" Friday night, and awaken on the following Monday morning and find we had become the America's. NEVER did I place a date on any such change. That would be extremely unwise to give a date, unless I was 110% sure!

    So please stop the trash talk. There will be a NAU, and it is a lot closer than it was just the other day. However, I don't know when it will take hold.

    I hope that gets your way of thinking back into the world of reality, and not some made up quotes that I never made.

    Sign Me,

    Disgusted with the NON-Truth!
     
  6. Magnetic Poles

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    Time for your chill pill! :laugh: No trash talk. That's why I asked 'WASN'T IT YOU', as I was not sure. No one is trying to put incriminating words in your mouth. You do just fine all by yourself!
     
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    Thanks, Doc, I'm Calmed Down NOW????

    What would I do without brothers like yourself???? You have a soothing affect on people. First you rile them up, than you slip them the "old chill pill". What a wonderful gift you have been blessed with when it comes to your fellow man.:thumbsup:
     
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    Like I said, Paul...it was not my intention to rile you up. Maybe you get too easily riled. Ain't good for the old ticker, ya know.
     
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    Maybe you could say you were mistaken, for asking such a loaded question ? Aren't you one of the "let's play nice, now that we have a democrat in the W.H." posters ?

    I gotta admit, it is a great way to derail a thread. Asking a loaded question, then making fun of the questionee.
     
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    The question was sincere. I seem to recall a thread where Paul predicted the NAU by the end of the weekend, but didn't want to go searching.

    No, it has nothing to do with who is in the White House. I have been trying to effect a one-man campaign to raise the level of discourse in the politics forum since my return. I have also previously addressed the everlasting burr in your saddle over some of my comments vis-a-vis some radio talk show hosts, so I won't say more on that. If you can't get over it, so be it.

    Moot point, as the question was a sincere one.
     
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    BTW, I found the original post, where Paul claimed to be a prophet. CLICK HERE.

    My memory was faulty in one respect. Paul did say "a Monday" not "Monday". Hence, my question.
     
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    It's too bad about your reputation. It's hard to change that. Especially when you ask those kind of questions. And I really have no burr, I am simply observing the FACT that name calling was fine with you, until Obama got in. The timing is suspect. That's all. I find your new conscience dubious. Maybe enough time will go by where I am convinced, but a month into a new administration ain't near enough.
     
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    Not trying to convince you of anything, nor do I really care what you think about me. My reputation is just fine, thanks. And again, I don't recall ever playing the childish name game with Mr. Bush. I have criticized him, and spoken my peace. But to the best of my recollection, I never did such with him either. If I am mistaken, I am sure someone will repost my comments. :laugh:

    Bear in mind, I have already told you that some names I used for some media talking heads could have been more maturely phrased. Yet, there is one level for those who regularly use such tactics on the air, and another when it comes to respecting the office of our leaders. Indeed, even Mitch's love of my quote re: "Darth" Cheney was done in jest, as the nickname was stuck to him by others over his demeanor. I was not implying the former Veep was Darth Vader. I do think his conduct over no-bid contracts to which he could benefit was ill-advised and possibly criminal. Again, that is not personal, just political. In other words, I disagree with Richard Nixon's assertion that "When the President does it, it's legal".
     
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    I don't respect Obama, because he has no respect for me. I see no law saying I have to. Not even on the BB.


    Like you, I have the freedom of speech, and when I can punctuate a point by calling him "the zero", or "President Training Wheels", I'm going to do it. It doesn't bother me that you called Cheney "Darth Vader". It doesn't bother me that you used ANY name-calling. What bothers me is that you now demand we stop. I'm simply not willing to do it. Focusing on the name-calling is a tactic of those who don't want to deal with the subject matter, or the point of the post.


    And I agree with you about Nixon. Hopefully you will come around on Obama, and be critical of his illegal acts. Like say, the bombing of Pakistan. Or his rewarding of tax cheats. Or his illegal wiretapping of Americans. Or rendition.
     
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    Sorry to hear it Curtis. Debate can be vigorous, forceful, and insightful without childish name calling. That is a pointless tactic. I never said it wasn't allowed or against the law. It does throw the dialog in the gutter and negates any constructive discussion. I hope you reconsider and join me in trying to elevate the level of discussion here.

    Stick around. I am sure you will see points where I disagree with President Obama. He's only been in office a short time...I am willing to give the man a chance.
     
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    One more thought to M.P., and I don't wish to sound like I'm beating up on you, but perhaps, if you really want everything to be nicey-nice, you could also hold posters like JustChristian and Dragonfly to the same standards, you know, confront THEM on the name calling & nastiness, not just the conservatives.


    Just a thought.
     
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    My comments are for all, but your point is well taken. But I am not talking about nicey-nice, Kumbaya time. I am talking about respectful disagreement rather than personal name calling and insults; debate can be furious, but it is time to talk issues and policies, not personalities. Even if you think either Obama or Bush or whoever, is the worst president in history, let's discuss why that is, why you feel that way, why someone else disagrees, and hash it out. Yes, it can, and will, get heated. Even out of control at times. But that should be the exception.

    For example, we all know that Mitch is very vocal about Global Climate Change is not being caused by human activity. Others feel it definitely is. Some, like me, think that regardless of the cause, we should make sure we don't contribute to abusing the good place God has given us to live on...the only home we have. I don't trash my house, and we all share this one house. There is a matter of good stewardship. So let's talk about why we believe like we do, bring supporting evidence from credible experts on all sides, and have at it. This goes for any issue.

    And it extends to other members here as well. Ken was roundly ridiculed by some in his thread about retiring from the Politics forum. That was unnecessary. Let's show some grace. I doubt (or at least hope) that some of the nastiness is due to the veil of Internet anonymity; that we would not treat one another with such disdain if we were to meet in person. There are some who may be questionable, but I think we all have more in common than any political issues separating us. I can honestly say that I would invite in and break bread with anyone here. There are several who I think go over the line with great regularity that it has become an Internet persona for them. Yes, I imagine there are some who are just fruitcakes on both sides, but again, this is the Internet, and all comers can post fairly easily.

    So, I guess to summarize...Shake hands and come out fighting, but make it a clean fight, not a forum version of the WWE. It may not happen, but I am an optimist.
     
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    I also tried this but none of the Republicans went along. I took a poll and none of them voted to give up their personal insults. They then had the gall to demand why I wasn't "acting nice" when they insulted me. I think it's a lost cause.
     
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    Of all the people to complain about how they are treated, you crack me up. Physician, heal thyself.
     
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