Scheuer: "Bin Laden Is Winning"

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  1. KenH

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    Excellent points that our leaders need to take to heart:

    "Osama was wrong about our military's courage — it is fighting superbly against long odds — but dead right regarding our elected and high-ranking appointed officials, Republicans and Democrats alike.

    The moral cowards governing us today have handed Afghanistan to Bin Laden. Instead of sending a half-million troops to that country, sealing its border with Pakistan, annihilating anyone who fought us, and then coming home, President Bush listened to then-CIA director George Tenet's promise that bribery and a few CIA and U.S.Special Forces officers would win the war. Tenet's recipe let about 60,000 Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters go home with their guns and missed Bin Laden at Tora Bora....

    Bin Laden is doing well militarily: He commands a potent organization, and is instigating a new worldwide threat that is nearly impossible to detect, let alone preempt....

    So on this 9/11, we must accept this sad and infuriating reality: Bin Laden is winning. He has defied us, attacked us, eluded us and inspired new threats we cannot begin to enumerate.

    To be victorious in this long war, we must get smarter and more ruthless. That means reducing U.S. intervention in the Muslim world, keeping policies essential to U.S. security and unloading those that undermine it — like energy dependence on the Saudi and other Gulf regimes. This will start to deflect Islamist and Muslim ire onto their main enemy, the Arab world's Islamofascist rulers.

    Second, we must ignore international opinion and apply overwhelming military force on Islamists and their abettors whenever necessary to defend America. This will cost Bin Laden much of the popular support generated by some current U.S. policies.

    As this support erodes, the Islamists can be destroyed by men and women descended from those who delivered catastrophe to America's German and Japanese enemies."

    - rest at www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2007/09/09/2007-09-09_cia_agent_says_were_letting_bin_laden_wi.html
     
  2. Pastor Larry

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    The truth is that Bin Ladin isn't doing much if anything. The second truth is that people like you are the ones who are creating the situation in which he can thrive. You are encouraging our military to walk away from the war rather than continuing to fight to establish a democracy that will hate the tactics of Bin Ladin as much as we do.
     
  3. KenH

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    I have never said that we should walk away from the fight with al Qaeda and its allies. I am all for being totally aggressive in going after them as anyone.
     
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    They are found in Iraq as well as other places. If we leave Iraq, we will give it wholly to Al Qaeda. You are short sighted.
     
  5. KenH

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    I am all for wiping out anyone who is a member of "al Qaeda in Iraq" before our troops are withdrawn. If our military is told to concentrate on them I don't think it would take too long to accomplish that.
     
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    Perhaps Bush should have fired Tenet.

    Perhaps Bush should have fired Tenet instead of allowing him to stay on at the Bush White House. Why should the GOP allow Democrats to serve? Clinton even fired all of the federal prosecutors when he took power. Bush certainly made a mistake in trying to reach out to the Democrats because they considered it a sign of political weakness, which it was.

    As for OBL, he would merely hide in Pakistan or somewhere else. With his money, he is able to move freely. He is probably deep in some cave or tunnel somewhere in Asia.
     
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    You think they are wearing signs? Or uniforms??? Come on Ken. You know better. You concentrate on people causing violence and wipe them out.
     
  8. KenH

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    If our intelligence folks can't figure this out then we should just forget about it and pull our troops out as soon as possible.
     
  9. KenH

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    It shouldn't matter where he is. Our federal government needs to put forth the resources needed to wipe him and the rest of the leadership of al Qaeda and their followers and allies off the face of the earth.
     
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    If OBL is even alive, which is in debate, his position could be described in many ways, but winning is not one of them. He might as well be in prison.
     
  11. Alcott

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    Even if we [the US government] caught him alive 'we'd be cowards to do the right thing and build that 7-foot skillet and fry him in 6 inches of hog fat.
     

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