Scholars vs. Laity part 2

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Amy.G, Dec 6, 2010.

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  1. Amy.G

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    Let's pick up from here.

     
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    Oops...I started another thread already with the emphasis on money, because this really needed to be dealt with. :)

    I would hate for a lurker to come to the BB who is in bankruptcy or foreclosure and think "oh well, I guess I'll never know correct doctrine...so why bother"
     
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  3. Amy.G

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    That's a good thread you started and you make a very good argument. :thumbs:
     
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    Sorry. I, personally, am not going to engage. The moderators locked the thread for a reason, and it seems kind of a bypass of their administrative duties to simply start another thread.
     
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    ...then come play on mine :)

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=68992
     
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    Yea, I think Haven has a good point.

    No one is saying that a layman can't get all he needs from his personal study of the Scriptures.

    He can understand a great deal.

    But there is a ton more that he cannot understand without training.

    I think that is plain on this very board.

    Webdog said the other day that Jonathan Edwards was not orthodox.

    I don't know of an educated person, even Arminian, who would agree with that.

    But these are things you come to understand as you are trained in seminary.
     
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    Actually, I said he was a hyper calvinist. Reading comprehension.
     
  8. Amy.G

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    It reached it's page limit.
     
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    You mean I can bring my ABSV to this thread?????!!!!

    Let's delve back into 1 Opinioneth 119!!!


    :thumbs:
     
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    Yes. It seems to be quoted quite a bit lately! :laugh:
     
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    I dont' know...you may just want to bring your seminary books instead :D
     
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    True, but training does not have to come through an institution--unless the aim is to restrict such training to a specific doctrinal perspective adopted by the funders of the institution.

    Training can be self-directed in most professions, except those requiring some sort of apprenticeship.

    Training is different from learning. Training, to me, speaks more of acquiring a specific set of objectives required by some group or organization. Learning, on the other hand, is broader and extends beyond boundaries (leaping over the electric fences).

    Now, I think if a person wants to pursue a church-related career in a specific denomination or tradition, then the person should attend that denomination's approved list of institutions in order to receive the prescribed training for leadership within that denomination.

    However, if a person wants to learn without boundaries, without electric fences, then the path of individual scholar pursuing a self-directed course of study over their whole life may produce a more satisfactory learning experience.

    I also think the Holy Spirit works in both training and learning situations.

    ...Bob
     
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    Since when did Almighty God have to start using scholars (ahem) to confound the "wise"? I always thought that He used those that were...well, let me let Him say it:

    For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. 1 Corinthians 1:26-29. -KJV

    All this glorying, in his presence is shameful.

    Unless the ABSV has a better translation than this, I'm sticking to this text!

    I'd quote the ABSV, but I can't find it right now! :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Post 34 and 42 of the "Why is Evil in the World" thread.

    Here is post 42. It has preachinjesus' response to the post where you indicated that Jonathan Edwards was not orthodox. And then you respond-



     
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    Like I said, your reading comprehension is quite lacking. "Not as orthodox as you might think" is NOT the same as "Jonathan Edwards is not orthodox".

    Please do better following along.

    Do you believe the governmental theory of the atonement is orthodox?
     
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    Aw now, preacherfortruth done gone and got God's idea of our high falutin' degrees.

    Killjoy :)
     
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    This is from post 37 of that same thread


    Now I anxiously await the spin doctor to see how he will spin this.
     
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    You are correct, I should have qualified my statement. In regards to the atonement, I do not believe him to be orthodox. He's clearly hyper.

    Now, do you believe in Governmental Atonement?
     
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