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Scofield Versions

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by USN2Pulpit, Jun 4, 2003.

  1. USN2Pulpit

    USN2Pulpit New Member

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    So far, all I've seen is KJV. Does it come in any other versions? If not, is there a comparable resource in NIV and ESV?
     
  2. neal4christ

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    I assume you are talking about the Scofield Study Bible. If so, it comes in NIV, KJV, and NKJV (at least those are all the ones I have seen). I have 2 KJVs and a NKJV one. [​IMG]

    Neal
     
  3. Baptist in Richmond

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    Really, Neal? I have never seen any Scofield, other than the KJV. I have seen a "revised" Scofield when I went to Lifeway to buy an ESV, but it still contained the King James Version (not even an NKJV).

    USN2Pulpit, have you ever used a Scofield? I think he did a FANTASTIC job on it. If you haven't I think you will like it.

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  4. Lorelei

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  5. Baptist in Richmond

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    Very cool, Lorelei, and thank you very much for the link!!
     
  6. john6:63

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    You guys and gals better be careful or TomVols will lock this thread up! :D
     
  7. Istherenotacause

    Istherenotacause New Member

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    So how is it C.I. Scofield re-wrote his notes and placed them in the niv and the nkjv? Or has some one borrowed his name and put it there?

    I could be wrong about this, but didn't C.I.Scofield die before the niv and the nkjv?
     
  8. TomVols

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    [​IMG] :D [​IMG] :cool:
     
  9. TomVols

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    Whoever owns the copyright to his notes probably gave persmission. Who owns these? Anybody know?
     
  10. MissAbbyIFBaptist

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    I beleive he died in the early nineteen hundreds. I'm wondering the same thing. How did they put his notes in another version? Course I've wondered how they got a NEW Scofeild edition when he's been dead for so long.
    Anyways, I have the Old Scofeild KJB, and I love it. I've had it sine I've got saved, and it's so marked, and underlined, and written it the margins, that in some places I've had to tape pages back in. The whole book of Proverbs is a little rough, seeing as I've read that daily for so long. I refuse to part with it. It's only about four years old, but in a few places it's coming undone. But it's precious to me. I love Scofeild's notes, and comentary. They really help you understand certian pasages, are great for doing a study on something specific. I highly recomend the Old Scofeild Study Bible.
    ~Miss Abby [​IMG]
     
  11. TomVols

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    Abby, Check your PM.

    You can either get the old or New Scofield now, and I believe they offer a variety of sizes. My hands love smaller-Bibles, but my eyes hate the small print :D
     
  12. MissAbbyIFBaptist

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    I got the PM, Tom. THanks!
    If it wern't for the fact I don't want to part with my Bible, I might get a large print, because my eyesight is getting so bad. {LOL, when I sit on the second pew from the front in church, I have to put on glasses just to make out my preacher's face! :rolleyes: } It's really a wonder I passed my eye test recently. I don't see how I did with 20/25 in one eye and 20/60 in the other! [​IMG] :eek: :D
    So now when I read my Bible, I wear my glasses and pull my Bible up right in front of my face and squint! [​IMG]
    ~Miss Abby [​IMG]
     
  13. Major B

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    Cyrus Ingerson Scofield (1843-1921) was an exceptional man with a great and tragic testimony. He was a civil war hero and a successful lawyer and politician in Kansas. As a young man, he was seen as future governor material, and who knows what from there? Drink destroyed his life. He lost his family (his wife divorced him and remarried), his job, his life, and wound up as a homeless bum on the streets of Chicago. He was saved through the ministry of the Pacific Garden Mission, and his "second life" began. Since he was divorced and remarried, he was never ordained, even though he was essentially the senior pastor at several large "Bible" churches. He personally edited two versions of his study bible, the 1909 and the 1917. Even then, he was assisted in writing the notes by a host of notables (James M. Gray, William J Erdman, A.T. Pierson [Spurgeon's successor at the Met Tab in London], and others). The New Scofield, released in 1967, has up-to-date notes with a similarly illustrious board. The original New Scofield was in sort of a KJV, with "key word changes" for archaic words.

    The impact of the Scofield Bible cannot be overestimated, particularly on the rural South. It came out at a time when there were not many Study Bibles, and it was aggressively marketed through "colporters" (traveling salesmen), and for many Bible students and preachers, it was their only library! While not a perfect work (what is?), it helped many preachers and Bible students develop a systematic way of studying the Bible.
     
  14. Istherenotacause

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    So what C.I.Scofield understood in 1909 and 1917 is considered archaic now? You mean he understood the KJB well enough to write his magnificent notes and center column references and we who proclaim higher learning have a hard time due to it's being "archaic"?

    I don't own a Scofield, not for any other reason than I just haven't ever had one. I heard that his notes on II Corinthians 7 are wrong about the Jews having to repent, but the Gentiles only have to believe. I see his point according to some scriptures,but the book of II Corinthians wasn't written to Jews only, so that sort of blows that thinking away.

    Now that doesn't mean my Bibles don't incorporate his CC references, even my Nelson "New" Open Bible has some of his notes I'm sure. It was my first Bible, but I don't agree with their translating "eagles" to "buzzards". This was due to the lack of knowing eagles too eat carion when unable to catch fresh food.

    So Scofield is double married? Now won't that go over good with my colleagues, who happen to swear by their Scofields, "If you've got the right Bible", but are staunch opposed to double-married preachers. Hmmmm? Maybe I should start selling Bibles now. KJB, of course! ;)
     
  15. Artimaeus

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    Not long after I was saved, my father gave me a New Scofield Study Bible. It wasn't long before it became my only "real" Bible because I knew where everything was. John 3:16 is on the right hand page, left column, at the bottom. I literally wore it out and when it was time to get a new Bible, because the print was shrinking, I dreaded it. I went to the bookstore and was I ever pleasantly surprised when they had a large print edition with everything exactly where God intended (John 3:16 is on the right hand page, left column, at the bottom). ;)
     
  16. Haruo

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    So how is it C.I. Scofield re-wrote his notes and placed them in the niv and the nkjv? Or has some one borrowed his name and put it there?

    I could be wrong about this, but didn't C.I.Scofield die before the niv and the nkjv?
    </font>[/QUOTE]Yes, but then Isaiah died before the KJV. I think.

    Haruo
     
  17. Istherenotacause

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    Yeah, but, Scofieled wasn't comissioned by the LORD and inspired to write any book of the Canon either. :rolleyes:
     
  18. Major B

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    Heard at a Bible College once (in jest, of course),

    'My hope is built on nothing less
    Than Scofield's notes and Scripture Press..."

    When I was stationed overseas, I attended an IFB church where the pastor and SS teachers would sometimes semi-jokingly give a scripture reference as "page 1104..." (In the SRB, of course).
     
  19. Dr. Bob

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    I've always used (and prefer) the early "old" Scofield. Not the 1909, but 1917 I think that has been indexes and typeface. And KJV on which I was weaned until I became mature enough to handle the Word.

    My BIG problem with the "revisions" back in 1960something was the change of words in his notes like baptism was an "ordinance" in the old and changed to "sacrament" in the new!!

    That makes a HUGE difference imho.

    But his notes on verses, chapters and texts would not change per se from one English translation to another. The gist of the verse is the same, even if the language is updated and made readable.

    Still sticking with my old old Scofield. And humming that song, Major . . . [​IMG]
     
  20. Jesus is Lord

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    Dear Artimaeus,

    Are you sure you have the real Bible?
    Because my Bible has John 3:16 on the left side, right column on top ;)
     
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