Scripture verse basis for bickering versions

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by psr.2, Aug 23, 2004.

  1. psr.2

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    I pity people who just sit here day after day and try to save the world from the KJB.

    You have lost already because you are against God.

    Your mv's lack the power of the Holy Spirit so you have to come out with a new version every couple of months to make yourself feel better.

    You lack the drive to do anything real for God because you have no light from your mv's

    For instance could one of you kids explain to me why the O.T. law set-up will be re-instated in the trib. and millenium?

    Don't come off with that they will not because there is a wealth of scripture to prove they do.

    One such scripture is this.
    Col. 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
    17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

    Written in the N.T. talking about a time when those things will be re-instated.

    I have attempted to get feedback on this verse here before and the results were pathetic.

    There are teenage Sunday School kids that can answer it yet version bickering scholars don't have a clue.

    Chapter and verse for version bickering please.
     
  2. David J

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    I pity people who just sit here day after day and try to save the world from the KJB.

    And I pity KJVOist who blindly attack the Word of the Most High as found in MV and bibles other than the KJV!

    You have lost already because you are against God.

    Really? Then explain why we have lost. Did people prior to 1611 not have the Word of the Most High?

    No you have lost simply because you have no scripture to support your myth.

    Your mv's lack the power of the Holy Spirit so you have to come out with a new version every couple of months to make yourself feel better.

    My NASB has the same power as the 1769KJV(or which ever KJV you assume is perfect). My NASB is clearer in Acts 5:30. My NASB is clearer in 2 Peter 1:1 and my NASB does not omit "through Jesus Christ" in Jude 1:25!

    Again you spam these boards with pure hear say!

    You lack the drive to do anything real for God because you have no light from your mv's

    Such hatred coming from a Christian! Shame on you! Maybe you should study that KJV before opening your death trap to judge and condemn user's of bibles other than the KJV translation.

    For instance could one of you kids explain to me why the O.T. law set-up will be re-instated in the trib. and millenium?

    Oh you mean the way the KJV promotes a work based salvation in Rev 22:14? My NASB promotes grace in Rev 22:14 and not works!

    Explain yourself my dear KJVO superstar!

    You might want to consider this:

    Colossians 2:6-19(NASB)6Therefore as you have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him,

    7 having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established £in your faith, just as you were instructed, and overflowing with gratitude.

    8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.

    9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,

    10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;


    11 and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ;

    12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.

    13 When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,

    14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

    15 When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him.

    16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—

    17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.

    18 Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind,

    19 and not holding fast to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God.

    Humm sure does sound like my NASB is a liberal version!

    I have attempted to get feedback on this verse here before and the results were pathetic.

    Getting you to answer questions is a lost cause!
     
  3. psr.2

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    Pitiful when someone tries to wrest the scripture and convince others.

    You cannot void a verse by quoting another. Address the verse...You can't so you change it with an mv.
     
  4. David J

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    Answer my question and explian what you mean by OT in the Trib....

    Why am I wasting my time with a blinded KJVO troll?
     
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    David,

    Now you are seeing it, leave it alone and just maybe it will go away.

    Bro Tony
     
  6. psr.2

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    I am not going away any more than you are understanding the verse. Just read it and see what it says..."shadow of things to come"
     
  7. Rooster

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    not hatered, but agnger, against people that mock God, a Biblical Mentor who also gets angry when people mocked God is Moses, or David. I don't think anybody hates you, but upset , at anyone mocking God is a natural reaction. I agree that "other" versions have enough truth to have a strong argument that they are good enough to be called Gods word, and that would be true if they didn't leave out verses, or change verses to say other things, but they do, unfortunately, and the KJV has been the one Bible that has remained the same for hundred of years, so reliable that all the "other" versions used the KJV to write their versions. well got to go , I'm in the middle of moving, hopfuly I can get back soon, in the mean time, "can't we all just get along?"
     
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    Prov 15:1 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.

    2 Tim 2:24-25 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

    Titus 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

    James 3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
     
  9. Bro.Bill

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    Col.2:6-23 talks about the qualificatoins of a witness. Verses 14-17 talks about the law observances being abolished through christ our Lord.
    Unless you are taking things out of text I miss what you are trying to say. I could be wrong, I am from time to time and am teachable, but I miss the point you are trying to make.
     
  10. psr.2

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    Nothing is being taken out of context. Please just read the verses. I posted them and it is as plain as can be.
    "Shadow of things to come"
    Something that will happen in the future. Written in the N.T. after the new covenant had started .
    You see the problem with all of this bickering is that none of these guys even know what the bible says outside of a few of their favorite verses.
    Have you noticed that o% could even comment?
     
  11. natters

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    psr.2 said "Have you noticed that o% could even comment?"

    I posted verses about the subject title. If you want to discuss eschatology, I suggest you try a different forum.
     
  12. psr.2

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    Read Ezekiel's vision in the last chapters of the book and see prophecy that is yet to be fulfilled and yet people deny it.

    All throughout the Psalms God refers to a time when his Son will reign on the throne in Jerusalem.

    Jesus Christ has yet to reign in Jerusalem but he will in the milenium.
    That will be the kingdom of heaven spoken of in the gospels.
    It is also the kingdom spoken of in the O.T.
    A literal physical kingdom on this earth where the King of Kings will rule with a rod of iron.

    Thank God I am looking forward to that day!
     
  13. psr.2

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    No natters you go away if you wish. All of my post is content of this thread not just the parts you want.
    People do that with scripture. They only take what they want. That's why were in the version mess we are in.
     
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    psr.2 said "All of my post is content of this thread not just the parts you want."

    The verses I posted apply to that part of your post too.
     
  15. psr.2

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    Prove the post wrong and expound on the verse.
    Do not try to disprove it by quoting another verse.
    Expound the verse.
    I will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt with scripture that the verse means just what it says.
    Natters you have the floor and I will repond to your reply.
     
  16. Charles Meadows

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    Psr2,

    First of all... How are we to believe you have the Spirit if all of your speech brims with hate? You need to show some Christian restraint.

    Secondly... Your assertion concerning the reinstatement of the OT law is incorrect, as is your interpretation of Colossians 2:16,17.

    In this case (you're gonna love this one ;) ) the NIV gets the translation better, rendering the participle "mellontwn" as "were come", reflecting its reference to the now COMPLETED law. They were a shadow of things come, namely Christ, and the real judgement, not one based on diet or holidays.

    Once again, if you expect your witness to be worth anything please try to ACT like the Christ about whom you speak.
     
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    I think you might be really surprised to find out how Christ would act.
     
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    Have you ever read the whole book? This verse is in respect to a specific heresy dealt with by the church in Colosse.

    The Law is a shadow meant to point to that is to come, this verse does not have anything to do with the Law being reinstated at a later time. The Law is merely a shadow of what the Trib and Mille will be like.

    You might want to study verses in their context, you can do that in whatever version you choose to use.
     
  19. psr.2

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    Have any of you ever read the book of Ezekiel?
    He tells all of what is to come as does Daniel.
    This superficial understanding of the scripture is the exact point of my post.
    We can bicker endlessly about versions but when it comes to content forget it.
    C'mon guys let's discuss it.
    Read Ez. 40-48 and tell me what the time frame is. It is future. It is future. Sacrifices and holy days are a future event.

    [ August 23, 2004, 10:10 PM: Message edited by: psr.2 ]
     
  20. Charles Meadows

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    Granny,

    I know how Jesus would act because I actually read the Gospels. Didn't Jesus say that we should hate our neighbor? Wait, maybe it was hand tracts to our neighbors? Or was it LOVE our neighbors!! Our brother Psr2 has NOT acted in a Christian fashion in any of his arguments.
     

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