Secede From The New World Order

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    The following is a transcript of Alex Jones’ emergency broadcast from the first hour of his November 15th, 2012 broadcast explaining the secession movement, its Constitutional basis, its potential traps and follies, and why Americans must withdraw from the corrupt, hijacked Federal government and rejoin through the several states under the wisdom and guidance of the United States’ key founding documents – the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

    It is the 15th day of November, 2012. I am Alex Jones your host. And I can undoubtedly, with butterflies in my stomach, which I never have, even speaking in front of thousands of people in a hall, I can unequivocally tell you that this is going to be the most important broadcast hands down that I have ever done. Now we have not been blindsided by the secession movement, but it’s almost like a bus that ran me over ten years ago, it’s old news to us. But the new news is that it’s now breaking nationwide and worldwide, and is a symbol and an indicator of the sleeping giant that is America awakening.

    And the entire globalist program has been built and designed to block what you are about to see unfold. I’m going to make some announcements here today, and I’m going to lay out some plans from my deep study of the Constitution that can save this Republic if you execute them. Victory is in our grasp. People don’t know they’re in tyranny until it really starts to get bad.

    Ladies and gentlemen, petitions to the White House under federal law have to be responded to when they reach a certain number. It’s now more than 15 states, it was 7 last night, that have reached that threshold.

    But secession itself is a red herring. I hope you’re listening to me. What we really want is a new Declaration of Independence issued July 4, 1776. The purest American values, the purest essence of the United States was secession from a corrupt, distant corporate empire backed up by military force. We are recaptured by the progeny; by the literal and figurative offspring of those robber barons 235 years ago. We are at the crossroads, and the entire enemy battle plan that we’ve reverse engineered is designed to suppress states’ rights movements. Because the states created the federal government and it is not their right, it is not their duty, We the people that make the states, it is an absolute imperative beyond duty. It is survival that we secede from the New World Order that has conquered us through fraud; that we declare the fraud null and void and then reconstitute the Republic with a new Congress of the several states.

    A new Declaration of Independence. We can’t wait until July 4th. And everything we’ve forward with the nullification movement, the states’ rights movement. The system has prepared for this; sold Obama as the next Lincoln, and said any state’s right movement is civil war. Glenn Beck is saying it’s illegal and civil war. It is the essence of America. And there’s a new Ron Paul video he put out this morning at Infowars.com that we just posted where he says that secession is the ultimate American value.

    America is already gone. We must recognize that, pull out the New World Order, prosecute the criminals that have hijacked the Republic that don’t flee, and then reconstitute the Republic. But we must first separate or die to then rejoin. We’ll be back, stay with us.

    CONTINUE . . .

    Now I expect we'll hear from plenty of people here that have used patriotism and the constitution as a cover whenever they argue that we must keep supporting one tyrannical faction of the federal government over the other tyrannical faction of the federal government. They'll beg and they'll plead with us and use every trick they can think of to talk us or shame us into supporting their favored tyrants. They have any number of false arguments they'll make in order to keep us under their chosen form of tyranny and when all that fails them they'll resort to childish attacks and name calling. They'll do their best to convince us that anyone who loves liberty and freedom more than their favored tyrants are crazy and not fit to be called Americans.

    They'll tell us to "move out" if we don't like their favored tyrants or that we are sore losers because their tyrant won and ours didn't. It's all about accepting their favored tyrants or else we are not patriotic enough, or American enough. Baloney. If they were half what they claim we wouldn't be seeing this secessionist movement because we'd still have a republic instead of a banking oligarchy running us into the ground.

    They won't accept the truth because if they did they would have to admit that they are part of the problem and just as responsible as the tyrants they want us all to keep supporting for what has gone so wrong in this country. Then they might feel obligated to do something beside blaming the other side for all our problems. It's no longer about being democrats or republicans. It's no longer about being conservatives or liberals. It's about being Americans now.

    Climb out of the slime that is false left vs right paradigm and start defending this country and our liberties instead of the false leaders and their cronies on either side.
     
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    Does anyone here actually like the idea of having our country stolen out from underneath us by a tight knit group of greedy globalist sociopaths?
     
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    Defend our this or that. Anything is better than dying a physical death and going to be with Jesus.
     
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    From the above link.

    A premise is a statement that an argument claims will induce or justify a conclusion.[1] In other words: a premise is an assumption that something is true. In logic, an argument requires a set of (at least) two declarative sentences (or "propositions") known as the premises along with another declarative sentence (or "proposition") known as the conclusion. This structure of two premises and one conclusion forms the basic argumentative structure. More complex arguments can use a series of rules to connect several premises to one conclusion, or to derive a number of conclusions from the original premises which then act as premises for additional conclusions. An example of this is the use of the rules of inference found within symbolic logic.

    I assume my premise is correct because,

    http://globalistagenda.org/quotes.htm

    so many "world leaders" have spoken out in favor of forming a New World Order and the abundance of clear evidence that a sustained assault on our national sovereignty and independence by a small group of greedy globalist sociopaths does indeed exist. So therefore my conclusion is that it exists indeed. My conclusion is based on history, solid facts and a wealth of evidence.

    It is therefore only logical to assume that my conclusion is correct. Where as any conclusion that is based on the denial of history, solid facts and a wealth of evidence that favors my conclusion is illogical and therefore cannot be correct.

    So, does anyone here actually like the idea of having our country stolen out from underneath us by a tight knit group of greedy globalist sociopaths?
     
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    Where's all this "responsibility to protect" the oppressed I keep hearing about from those who claim Christ? Am I to assume that "R2P" only applies to others being oppressed in foreign nations?

    Don't we also have a responsibility to protect our own people from oppressors?
     
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    No, but, as an individual, there isn't much I can do about it.

    There is, indeed, a wealth of evidence to support your conclusion. Your link is just one example. It wasn't by accident that we (US) participated in structuring a "global economy". Our capability to stand alone, through our own manufacturing was effectively dismantled. Going off the Gold Standard helped pave the way. It wasn't by accident that the UN is headquartered close to Wall Street. It wasn't an accident that there was little MATERIAL difference between the two candidates at the top of the ticket 2 weekd ago.

    When the US was founded, there was just enough government, at both the state and federal level, to keep us out of anarchy. The far, far right. Gradually, over the generations the line that separates anarchy from total govermental control has been moving to the left. The last 100 years have seen it move at a faster and faster pace. As evidenced by the timelines on the quotes from the link you provided. The "center" that we hear so much about these days, is now in actuality the far left, when compared to our founding.

    When we had moved far enough along that line, towards the left, institutions such as the Federal Reserve, United Nations, International Court, etc. were accepted by the population. (Frogs in the proverbal pot of warming water.) Even our Supreme Court is suggesting that international law for domestic situations is applicable, as we yield our more of sovereignty. The UN is starting to dictate what must happen within our own borders. And, we are slowly but surely yielding.

    I first learned of the "Illuminati" (New World Order) sometime in the 70's. Then, I had the opportunity to spend a number of hours with a highly intelligent, highly educated, well respected, gentleman who introduced the history of this movement. Where it was headed, and what to expect in the future. (Just as a side note, at the time he held 20+ patents, with several other's pending. So this man wasn't a fly-by-night tin-foil hat stereotype.)

    Over the years, since then, I've watched what he expected come about. Have seen the heat gradually turned up under that pot, as the governed became adusted to each incremental movement towards one world order. The generation ahead of mine would be in revolt, if it were possible for them to be placed in today's society. As they died out, the line moved further left. As my generation is dying out, the line is still moving. It isn't far from its intended destination.

    At this point, in my life, my only question is this. How much of what is happening is God's plan to bring about His final solution, SOON? It could be just another repeat of history, as empires have risen and fallen, before and after Rome. Or, it could be He is allowing this to transpire in preparation for the arrival of the true/final antiChrist. Maybe not during my lifetime, but perhaps during the lifetimes of my great nieces and nephews.

    In my opinion..... for whatever it may be worth....

    True professing Christians should be doing two things at the same time.

    (1) Living, in accordance with the scriptures, as if tomorrow will bring the last sunrise.

    (2) Living, in accordance with the scriptures, as if it will be another thousand years before Jesus walks on this earth again.

    Either way:

    Ephesians 6: KJB
    9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

    10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

    11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

    12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

    14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

    15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

    16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

    17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

    18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
     
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    Lead the way, bill! :type:
     
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    >Where's all this "responsibility to protect" the oppressed I keep hearing about from those who claim Christ?

    Ah, but those on BB who claim Christ also claim to be the oppressed. Most of the threads on this sub forum are about Christians in the US throwing off their bond of oppression. They con't understand that they ARE FREE "in Christ" and prefer to argue about stuff that is not their responsibility.

    OUR responsibility is what we do, what our famlies do, and what our local congregation does. Everything else is God's problem.
     
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    Hogwash. The assumption that we do not know we are free in Christ is disingenuous at best. The issue is a desire to live in a nation as it was founded to be. One that fully allows the free proclamation of the Gospel and promotes the biblical ideals of personal responsibility and God's standards of morality.
     
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    On the other hand, Christianity gained the upper political hand around 310 AD and has been going down hill morally and theologically ever since.
     
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    Indeed there is something to this whole conspiracy theory thing... I studied it first as a skeptic but 20 years has proven out much.
     
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    So what will be the first sign the New World Order lead by the internationalist global evil bankers are getting ready to zap us? Flying saucers????? Black helocopters??? Rigged electoral votes??? Maybe Martians???? Pink elephants???
     
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    Where's all this "responsibility to protect" the oppressed I keep hearing about from those who claim Christ? Am I to assume that "R2P" only applies to others being oppressed in foreign nations?

    Don't we also have a responsibility to protect our own people from oppressors?


    I've heard it since I was a kid in Sunday school. "we have a responsibility to defend others from oppression".

    So off we went to war in other countries to defend the oppressed. We went to Korea to "defend the oppressed" we went to Iraq to "defend the oppressed" we went to Libya to "defend the oppressed". We've made a big deal about being the good guys and sending our troops all over the globe to "defend the oppressed".

    But now when someone dares suggest we start defending ourselves against our own globalist oppressors all of a sudden it's not our duty to defend our own children and our own neighbors???

    We've always been such gung ho warriors of God when it comes to defending foreigners from their oppressors but when it's suggested we might have to defend our own countrymen from oppressors all of a sudden we want to step out of the way and let God handle it for us?

    It seems that when the great American warrior spirit confronts it's own oppressors it turns into the spirit of hypocrisy and cowardice. When the American warrior spirit meets it's own oppressors it say's "we must obey them"? Boy if that ain't an open invitation for an oppressor to move in and take over with our blessings I don't know what is. Maybe we should hang out a big sign on the church door that says "OPPRESSORS NEEDED APPLY HERE WE WILL OBEY".

    I guess when it comes right down to it all that talk about "defending the oppressed" was just talk.
     
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    Conspiracy implies people meeting in secret. Every time the bad guys meet, Alex Jones tells us about it, gives us a list of the people who attend.
     
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    There's very little hidden. I mean you can go to the Brookings Institute page and read the plan to overthrow Iran. It's no secret. It maps out how they intended to manufacture the "Arab Spring" and use it to overthrow Egypt and Liyba and Syria and finally go on to do the same to Iran.

    It's all in your face now.
     

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