Second hand"knowledge"

Discussion in 'Bible Versions/Translations' started by Trotter, Mar 18, 2008.

  1. Trotter

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    The tirades of a couple of (very) recent threads has got me to thinking, and I wonder how many here have thought the same thing. This thought pertains to all sides of the fence, so give a listen.

    How often are we guilty of taking something we hear/read ABOUT someone or something, and automatically using it as if it were true... without checking the authenticity of the facts? Some quotes were pulled from a couple of websites regarding a certain publication and used as fact, but these "facts" were never substantiated or verified by either the one who used them or those who disagreed. The burden of proof lies on the one making the accusation, not the defendant, but when no one checks it out we are all guilty of accepting it.

    Unless something can be established as actual (by first-hand knowledge), why would we use it as such? Of course, adultery and such would not fall within this conversation, so let's not go in that direction. But "facts" about various translations, including the KJV's various editions and the modern editions, are tossed around without thought... but have these been checked out? Copy-and-paste tactics are about as lazy as it comes, especially without any verification.

    It is easy to find something, anything, on the web that agrees with whatever you want to say. A simple Google search will give you all kinds of "ammunition" for this sort of thing... but how credible are the sources? Without checking out what is said, we are taking the word of a total stranger as fact. No website should be given that kind of credibility. Even the Bereans searched the scriptures to verify what they heard.

    I, for one, am willing to take a stand for truth. Yes, I have copy-and-pasted "facts" without checking them out before, but I will not do so anymore. If I can't back it up, I won't post it. To do so would not only harm my integrity, but the integrity of the word of God. I, for one, do not want to be guilty of it.

    So, are we men (and women) of integrity, or are we slovenly and willing to shovel the mire?
     
  2. EdSutton

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    Gimme' another shovel! I broke the handle on this one!

    Not getting real 'deep' into this, but what's the first theing you oughtta' do, when when you find yourself in a hole??

    "Stop digging!"


    :D

    Ed
     
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    Trotter,

    Well said. I did some web research on the previous subjects and guess I will have to do some foot research at the local Christian bookstores to back up what I found on the web. One thing I have discovered is that not many web authors take a balanced view of things that they disagree with and throw everything under the bus- or the baby out with the bath water as is more commonly said.

    I read somewhere that 98% of stated facts are true only 12% of the time or something to that effect. But don't take my word for it- check it out for yourself!

    :laugh: :thumbs:
     
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    Don't know about all this, but 78.3% of people know for a fact that 88.46% of all statistics are made up on the spot 93.46% of the time! :D :laugh:

    Ed
     
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    Trotter, thanks for posting this.
    I have been guilty of this in the past way too many times on issues like the KJO position ( I used to be KJVo before I actually checked the facts out) and have gotten burned too many times.

    That is one of the reason why I am now so picky about being sure of a fact.

    It is just rediculous that a poster would expect others to prove him wrong when he offered no documentation of his potentially slanderous remarks.

    Please note that I said "potentially" since I am not sure one way or the other.
     
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    Everything I post is fact, just ask me!

    :laugh:
     
  7. Ed Edwards

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    Trotter in the OP /opening post/:
    // How often are we guilty of taking something we hear/read ABOUT someone or something, and automatically using it as if it were true... without checking the authenticity of the facts? //

    Actually, it is un-scriptural to do that.

    I practically feel it a calling that I check every scriputre reference that I run into especially on the Baptist Board and other bulletin boards. I am amazed sometimes at the result.

    Some people quote a Bible that they don't have a copy of nor do they look the passage up in the on-line locations such as crosswalk.com e-sword.com & etc. This is deceptive when one does this.

    Some people don't know how to identify a Bible enough to relate to others where they should look when they check. This always shows a victim of deception.

    Some other people don't bother to check when when my Bibles are damned by people who haven't read the Version yet. That really upsets me - for my Bible is trashed without a chance :(

    Acts 17:10-11 (Geneva Bible, 1599 Edition):
    And the brethren immediatly sent away Paul and Silas by night vnto Berea, which when they were come thither, entred into ye Synagogue of the Iewes.
    Act 17:11 These were also more noble men then they which were at Thessalonica, which receiued the woorde with all readinesse, and searched the Scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

    Be Berean - Check Scripture every day
     
  8. Ed Edwards

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    Oops Brother Ed, your second hand knowledge is amiss :tear:

    here is the strait stuff:

    but 78.3705% of people know for a fact that 88.4673% of all statistics are made up on the spot 93.4601% of the time

    Please watch the leaving out of details, when they are known :D

    Thank you Brother EdSutton the Kind.

    -Ed Edwards,
    the other kind
     
  9. EdSutton

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    You are no doubt correct, as to the 4 places you carry these figures. However, being as my bride was asleep, my niece and nephew were both at work, both my great nieces were in school, and I could not get enough of the cats and dogs to lie still long enough for me to have enough fingers, toes, and claws to count accurately on, I had to round off the figures, to two places.

    Just holding that many cats on their backs, so I could count, left me with four scratch marks, as it was! :D :laugh:

    Ed
     

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