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SECOND WARNING: The NAU is But a Weekend Away!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Nov 10, 2008.

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  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    You're Soooo Right...

    However, I didn't make that prophesy, I simply passed it on. But, let me make this perfectly clear: That prophesy may not have been directed to Palin and her VEEP run. I believe that this prophesy may come to pass in regard to her, should she run for POTUS in 2012, or 2016. Prophecy's given, sometimes take the perfect time and place to come to pass.

    I was given a prophetic word in 1987, and it is still unfolding. It had many different issues, and God has slowly, but surely opened each issue according to its time and place in my life. It is supernaturally amazing to watch God bring to pas the many facets of this word.

    So, Amy, we'll wait and see before we toss stones on the author of prophesies given by others or myself. As for my prophet predictions, I stand behind them, and when they come to pass and you are concerned with the new NAU and how it will affect you and yours, write me, and I'll walk you through your concerns.

    Pastor Paul
     
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    Well its Monday morning. Lets see if we have a NAU. Nope! Surprise surprise.
     
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    Other than the title of this thread.... was there a statement pinpointing a date?
    Sorry, but I missed that..............and I don't usually jump on titles too much...recognizing most are hooks or gimmicks to draw attentions to stories.

    As for the NAU, it is already in the works: Agreements, whether properly published and approved by congress or not.... already exist between the leaders of the Mexican, Canadian, and US goverment. It makes no difference who we elect..... particularly so if a Democrat or Republican. Any one sitting in the office of the Presidency will comply with the plans of the CFR and the Trilateral Commission, and work to bring the laws of the nation and control of the people into compliance with the UN, or they will be taken out, and the blame thrown on innocent persons or groups of people to break their resistance.

    To say that this is related to the appearance of the anti-christ.... only insomuch as it fruthers the goals towards a one world government, and within each country is being established ways, means, and laws, increasing the powers of government to surveil the movements, actions, and transaction of their citizens, with data bases and technology, deep enough to document more carefully than an individual can with a diary, journal, or retain in memory, the various events and persons with whom he has contact. This is essential for the control of religious worship, financial transactions and livelihood, and compliance of the people to policies.
     
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    I'm not sure it is 'fear and hopelessness' which you are seeing, or just the effort of Christians to inform others, in hopes of delaying, intervening, or preparing for acceptance of what is and will eventually come to pass. If there is hopelessness.... it is for those who truely believe that we can delay God's timetable. If there is fear..... it is for those who think it is possible to plan if they could know God's time table...plan for their salvation or for the witnessing to others or believing that they could hoard or buy guns, or otherwise prepare for events which are to occur.

    There is one to be feared... God and his judgement: In acknowledging him, we are drawn by his love to faith and salvation, and learn that in the perfection of his love in us, we have nothing to fear.

    If we have possessions.....homes, cars, savings, material goods and comforts, it is by his hand and it all belongs to him. We came into this world with nothing material and will go out with nothing material. All that anyone owns can be lost due to economic changes, changes in law and government, and natural and man made disasters. Why fear? Muchly if we haven't already given it up to put the trust of our keeping to God!

    If we think we have freedom: The Constitution of the US was intended to preserve those freedoms under a people who live by the law within the govenment which is also governed and conforms to that law: When either stray then the blessings of lawfulness is lost in the consequences of the seeds we have sown: There is nothing new in this: Man's heart is naturally wicked and lawless, full of selfish desires, covetiousness and lust, sensory excitable.......and the consequences 'man reaps what he sows' is inevitable without Jesus Christ.
    The freedom we have is in the LORD, with or without a paper document! We cannot loose the freedom God gives no matter what the government, or people do. Even in Paul's day, the slave in Christ Jesus found all the freedom he needed to do as unto the LORD. No man can give us this kind of freedom...... or boldness to do what must be done if there comes a time when standing for the truth means persecution.

    Christians, true believers in Jesus Christ, have a future to look forward to no matter how the world turns. It doesn't remove us from responsibilties to both warn and encourage each other to hold fast to that which is true, and to warn others of direction and judgement to come. This is not done for fear.... but in hope that others may see, and repent and turn to the living God in whom they can trust.
     
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    And that gets a hardy AMEN from me, Sister.
     
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    Less there be confusion, let's make that "sister". :laugh: :wavey: :godisgood:
     
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    Well I'll just take another helping of humble pie then and apologize the 2nd time today for another misrepresentation.
     
    #27 Palatka51, Nov 17, 2008
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    1. Have the banks "failed"? No one has lost a penny in a bank.
    2. My grandpa would not put a penny in a bank because he said they would fail again like they did in 1929. Millions of people have been predicting the "failure" of banks for decades. Is that prophecy?
    3. The NAU is going to happen. I know this because...it's common knowledge to anyone that follows the global plans of the United Nations.
    4. I hereby "prophecy" that abortion WILL NOT BE OVERTURNED in this country. Why do I know this? Because the United States has a signed committment to the United Nations that abortion rights will be protected both in the U.S. and world-wide.
    5. What does it mean that Sarah Palin is "Esther"? I could prophecy that George Bush is Josiah, and I can "prove" my prophecy to be true in any number of ways.
    6. It absolutely perplexes me as to why people keep on believing in "prophets" and "prophecies" when their predictions are wrong over and over.
    7. The day of miraculous prophecies is over. We have a more sure word of prophecy. It's called the Bible.
     
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  9. righteousdude2

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    The supernatural Side of God Lives Today!

    Please tell me what this verse is referring to if there is NO longer a need for prophesy.?

    Acts 2:17 - " 'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.

    Romans 12:6 - Having gifts (faculties, talents, qualities) that differ according to the grace given us, let us use them: [He whose gift is] prophecy, [let him prophesy] according to the proportion of his faith;

    Acts 2:18 - EVEN ON MY BOND SLAVES, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN,I WILL IN THOSE DAYS POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT And they shall prophesy.

    Acts 19:6 - And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking with tongues and prophesying.

    There is a place for prophesy in this period of Grace under the Gospel. Do not be blinded by your failure to understand the Supernatural side of God. We live in a Supernatural World brother, and all things are possible. Sure we have the Word of God, and that Word supports the gift of prophesy in these day and times. To deny prophesy is to deny the most beautiful part of God. His ability to converse with His people through the Supernatural is an amazing fact of spiritual living.

    You, of course, may believe what you choose, but, don't limit my ability to communicate with God in accordance with your lack of understanding. I've seen prophesy in action. I was once like you, and then one day I met God, and the light of prophetic teaching and words brought light to my once dark world.

    Shalom,

    Pastor Paul:type:
     
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    Not 100% True.....

    As for the failure of banks: They have failed and no longer exist. They went bankrupt, or out-of-business, and are now owned by the Fed or by a larger bank. That my brother, is failure. It doesn't mean someone has to lose money for a bank to have failed...however, I should point out that people have lost money. They had deposits that were more than the FDIC maximum of $100,000.00. This is fact, just go back to the early days of Wall Sreets meltdown. Furthermore, people have lost tons of money in the stock market with stock in Leahman Brothers, Wahcovia, Fannie Mae and Fannie Mac, etc. So your comment in #7 is not all true. SORRY!:tonofbricks:

    Pastor Paul
     
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    Sorry brother, no offense intended, but I don't think you can name a single bank that has failed. I don't anybody that has lost a cash deposite in a bank. Stocks have nothing to do with that. I know, I've lost virtualy all of my retirement which was almost totaly in stocks. But I haven't lost one penny in the bank.

    I'm not disputing that we are having hard times, but it hurts the cause when we shot-gun all sorts of doomsday prophecies that aren't accurate.

    Stocks will recover within the next five years or so because currently they are grossly underpriced. Now is the time to buy. Once the real estate market stabilizes, all the rest will eventually fall in place. The main reason we're having this trouble is that for years the government encouraged banks to fund risky mortgages. The artificial growth in real estate values and risk income had to eventually exhaust, which it did, and we see the results today.

    The government keeps messing with the economy under the diluted socialistic notion that the business cycle can be prevented. I wish they would just leave it alone - don't you?
     
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    No Offense Taken....hoever, read on:

    I have found that it is extremely important to be able to back up what you write about on the forum, and I can do just that. The following is from the LA Times on the Indy Mac Bank failure earlier this year. Please note that people did lose money because they had more money than the FDIC insurance coverage allowed.

    "Well, it finally happened. IndyMac Bank has been taken over by the FDIC, becoming the second-largest financial institution failure in U.S. history. I’ve been reading a bunch of new stories about it, and here are what I think are the highlights:

    Customers: Don’t Panic! Most people with regular checking or savings accounts don’t have too much to worry about. The FDIC has set up this official information page for customers. You can still use ATMs. Checks you write will still be processed. Electronic deposits and withdrawals will still go through. Online banking, phone banking and even the physical branches will re-open on Monday. You won’t even lose past interest:

    All interest accrued through Friday, will be paid at your same rate. IndyMac Federal Bank will be reviewing rates and will provide further information soon. You will be notified of any changes.

    From the LA Business Journal:

    The Office of Thrift Supervision transferred control of the company to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. The FDIC said it will transfer insured deposits and assets of IndyMac Bank to a new federally operated institution called IndyMac Federal Bank that will open Monday. […] Regulators said that customers of IndyMac will have uninterrupted access to their accounts beginning next week at the bank’s 33branches.

    This is consistent with when I explored What happens if my bank fails? The FDIC seems to do a pretty good job of cleaning things up.

    …Unless you exceeded the FDIC insurance limits

    Customers are insured 100 percent for deposits up to $100,000. The FDIC said the bank has about $1 billion of “potentially uninsured deposits” held by 10,000 depositors. The FDIC said it will begin contacting uninsured customers on July 14. The agency said it plans to give customers with more than $100,000 at least 50 percent of their uninsured deposit amounts.

    Wade Francis, president of Long Beach-based Unicon Financial Services, said there is “very little” chance that uninsured depositors will get all their money back because IndyMac had a large number of home loans, which will be difficult to sell off.

    It boggles the mind that so many of the very same people who have enough money to exceed FDIC limits in the first place, don’t bother protecting it properly. The whole point of keeping money in banks is so that it is safe… Instead, people are getting 50% and go home and pray to see the rest again. Ouch."

    That is at least 10,000 people who will lose money because of the banks failure.

    So, I say to you, let's quit mincing words, brother, these banks are failing. They may be being taken over by the Fed and sold to another bank, but the bank in question [in this case: IndyMac] DID IN FACT FAIL.....Sorry, but the facts are the facts.:tonofbricks: Maybe an apology from you would be forthcoming since you were wrong on this issue.:laugh:

    Shalom,

    Pastor Paul:type:
     
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    Okay, you got me on that one. I'm an idiot. I thought I read something that said that all deposites were covered by FDIC, but upon closer examination, apparently it said all "insured" deposites were safe.

    But I agree with that last paragraph about people not moving their money into other banks or investments. Everyone should know that when they reach $100,000 in deposites, it time to move some of the money. It's one of the cardinal rules of finance. I guess they skipped school the day they were teaching that.

    BTW I noticed on the FDIC web site that Indymac depositors would receive a 50% ADVANCE DIVIDEND on their deposites over the threshold. I assume the remainder is contingent upon the profitability of the new bank.
     
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    You Are A True Brother...

    I appreciate your humble response, but, there was no need to "beat yourself up" over this. It was an honest mistake.

    I knew that quite a few IndyMac folks lost money in the FDIC thing, and my only explanation it, they truly trusted the system. I don't think too many people saw this tidal wave of economic downfall coming. After, this is America.

    I hope Obama can effect some positive changes and get us out of this hole, but, I honestly believe Obama and his administration will be swallowed whole by the second wave to come ashore early next year. This is when the people will turn on Obama and say he lacked leadership experience, and should that come about, I will remind them that I, one of millions, to them so!

    Bless you my brother, and keep your deposits to a minimum. Put the rest under a fireproof matress...

    Pastor Paul:type:
     
    #34 righteousdude2, Nov 19, 2008
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    Why worry about it? The US dollar is doomed. No one holding on to it is going to be able buy a tomato seed with it.
     
    #35 Palatka51, Nov 19, 2008
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    The FDIC is often appointed as receiver for failed banks. This page contains useful information for the customers and vendors of these banks. This includes information on the acquiring bank (if applicable), how your accounts and loans are affected, and how vendors can file claims against the receivership.

    This list includes banks which have failed since October 1, 2000.



    Bank Name Closing Date Updated Date
    Security Pacific Bank, Los Angeles, CA November 7, 2008 November 7, 2008
    Franklin Bank, SSB, Houston, TX November 7, 2008 November 7, 2008
    Freedom Bank, Bradenton, FL October 31, 2008 October 31, 2008
    Alpha Bank & Trust, Alpharetta, GA October 24, 2008 October 24, 2008
    Meridian Bank, Eldred, IL October 10, 2008 October 10, 2008
    Main Street Bank, Northville, MI October 10, 2008 October 10, 2008
    Washington Mutual Bank, Henderson, NV and Washington Mutual Bank FSB, Park City, UT September 25, 2008 October 20, 2008
    Ameribank, Northfork, WV September 19, 2008 October 20, 2008
    Silver State Bank, Henderson, NV
    En Español September 5, 2008 October 20, 2008
    Integrity Bank, Alpharetta, GA August 29, 2008 October 20, 2008
    The Columbian Bank and Trust, Topeka, KS August 22, 2008 October 20, 2008
    First Priority Bank, Bradenton, FL August 1, 2008 October 27, 2008
    First Heritage Bank, NA, Newport Beach, CA July 25, 2008 October 20, 2008
    First National Bank of Nevada, Reno, NV July 25, 2008 October 20, 2008
    IndyMac Bank, Pasadena, CA July 11, 2008 October 27, 2008
    First Integrity Bank, NA, Staples, MN May 30, 2008 October 20, 2008
    ANB Financial, NA, Bentonville, AR May 9, 2008 October 27, 2008
    Hume Bank, Hume, MO March 7, 2008 October 27, 2008
    Douglass National Bank, Kansas City, MO January 25, 2008 October 20, 2008
    Miami Valley Bank, Lakeview, OH October 4, 2007 October 20, 2008
    NetBank, Alpharetta, GA September 28, 2007 October 20, 2008
    Metropolitan Savings Bank, Pittsburgh, PA February 2, 2007 October 20, 2008
    Bank of Ephraim, Ephraim, UT June 25, 2004 April 9, 2008
    Reliance Bank, White Plains, NY March 19, 2004 April 9, 2008
    Guaranty National Bank of Tallahassee, Tallahassee, FL March 12, 2004 October 20, 2008
    Dollar Savings Bank, Newark, NJ February 14, 2004 April 9, 2008
    Pulaski Savings Bank, Philadelphia, PA November 14, 2003 July 22, 2005
    The First National Bank of Blanchardville,
    Blanchardville, WI May 9, 2003 October 20, 2008
    Southern Pacific Bank, Torrance, CA February 7, 2003 October 20, 2008
    The Farmers Bank of Cheneyville, Cheneyville, LA December 17, 2002 October 20, 2004
    The Bank of Alamo, Alamo, TN November 8, 2002 March 18, 2005
    AmTrade International Bank of Georgia, Atlanta, GA
    En Español September 30, 2002 September 11, 2006
    Universal Federal Savings Bank, Chicago, IL June 27, 2002 April 9, 2008
    Connecticut Bank of Commerce, Stamford, CT June 26, 2002 October 20, 2008
    New Century Bank, Shelby Township, MI March 28, 2002 March 18, 2005
    Net 1st National Bank, Boca Raton, FL March 1, 2002 April 9, 2008
    NextBank, N.A., Phoenix, AZ February 7, 2002 October 20, 2008
    Oakwood Deposit Bank Company, Oakwood, OH February 1, 2002 October 20, 2008
    Bank of Sierra Blanca, Sierra Blanca, TX January 18, 2002 November 6, 2003
    Hamilton Bank, N.A., Miami, FL
    En Español January 11, 2002 October 20, 2008
    Sinclair National Bank, Gravette, AR September 7, 2001 February 10, 2004
    Superior Bank, FSB, Hinsdale, IL July 27, 2001 October 20, 2008
    The Malta National Bank, Malta, OH May 3, 2001 November 18, 2002
    First Alliance Bank & Trust Company, Manchester, NH February 2, 2001 February 18, 2003
    National State Bank of Metropolis, Metropolis, IL December 14, 2000 March 17, 2005
    Bank of Honolulu, Honolulu, HI October 13, 2000 March 17, 2005


    From Here
     
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    That's Why I Collect Coins....

    I have gold and silver to help me through the bad times to still come.
     
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    Yeah....THAT'S some inflation-proof money management. :rolleyes:
     
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    Thank you for the advice but I dont' have enough cash to even think about the FDIC threshold, and if the market doesn't recover, it's going to stay that way.
     
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