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Secret plan to keep Iraq under US control?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Jun 6, 2008.

  1. Palatka51

    Palatka51 New Member

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    Evil at bay in our own house?

    Are you suggesting that we are under a dictatorship? :rolleyes:

    I don't know why that should surprise me, after all that is the way all you conspiracy theorist think. Man, I bet you don't have a single rug in your whole house. You and antiaging need to get together. He thinks that all the food we eat is designed to kill us and that we are being watched day and night through our TV sets. :rolleyes:

    It is well known that Nazi Germany taught these tactics to Arabs to frustrate the British during WWII. Then after Germany was defeated the Holocaust survivors were impatient to establish their new nation and used the tactics they learned while resisting the German occupation of Poland. Their heroic resistance in the streets of Warsaw's ghetto is well storied. The Cold War brought the Arabs and the KGB together and the Soviet's armed and trained them to frustrate the Western nations. Us involvement in Iran was designed to frustrate the Soviets by providing a strategic barrier against Communist influence in the Middle East.

    Did the CIA make mistakes in Iran? Yes.

    Was there a better way to battle Soviet influence in the Middle East? Absolutely!

    People make mistakes and then hopefully they learn from them. Nations are run by fallen people and are prone to making mistakes on the world's stage, likewise we hope that most nations learn from them. Nation's that do not repent and turn from them go on until ultimately are judged by God.

    Quite frankly I see an America that is ready and willing to always help it's neighboring nations even if they are enemies.

    When Europe was being over ran with evil in 1912 and then in 1938, who stepped in and turned the tide of evil? Then used it's economic prowess not to enslave but to rebuild. The Communists used their power to enslave. Even into the 90's when the Berlin Wall was finally torn down, the evidence of WWII's devastation was still there in East Berlin. Western Germany was and is an economic powerhouse today because of American blood and sacrifice for freedom. Both of these are evidence of American influence verses Soviet/Communist influence.

    When Chernoble melted down, who offered to help in the clean up?

    When the tsunami hit Indonesia, who offered to help rebuild?

    When the typhoon tore into Burma, who offered to bring aid?

    Who is currently assisting China after their devastating earth quake?
    The above comments of mine shows that America is doing just what Jesus asked people to do, but yet many other nations want to kill us. Yes, I still see a very Christian heart in America.

    Where has our freedom gone? As I set here typing away on an open forum I do so without fear of reprisal. You do so without fear of reprisals. If these people that have been involved in these conspiracies
    wanted to take over the US they had better hurry up. Most have already passed away and many are in their late 80'and early 90's.

    It is time we do put our house in order. End abortion and stop the tide of homos*xual "rights" that are being forced upon all of us. I am not blind. I see that neither the Republicans or Democrats are going to end these issues to our favor. That is why I am really looking very seriously at Bob Bar. However if I see that a vote for him is going to be a vote for Obama I will vote for McCain. Appointment of judges being the reason why.

    Stop looking under your rugs and start doing something to make a difference.

    Oh, I forgot you don't have any rugs. :D
     
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  2. Ed Edwards

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    I get 19,400 hits on "enduring bases"
    note that "enduring bases" just gives occurances of both words in that order. By contrast enduring bases gives all occurences of either 'enduring' or 'bases' or both. (note Google will give the second case if the first case gets no hits).

    BTW, in US-government-speak TEMPORARY can be longer than PERMENANT:

    temporary - until no longer needed
    permenant - until non-functional

    Come to think of it, TEMPORARY is frequently longer than PERMENANT!


     
  3. Palatka51

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    Would y'all please stop with the small fonts? Mine old eyes can't handle it. No, wait its not your fault it the conspiracy to keep older and wiser men from seeing their nefarious ways. :BangHead:
     
  4. NiteShift

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    In reality, if the next US administration decided to take all the troops out and close the bases, it would happen regardless of current agreements.

    Also, if the legitimate elected Iraq government proclaimed, "Coalition troops out now!", there'd be little choice but to comply, again regardless of current agreements. Bon voyage!

    lol...Better stock up on reading glasses before they ban them [​IMG]
     
  5. poncho

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    Not quite yet. All the enabling laws are in place now so that with one more "incident" POTUS could declare martial law. You should keep yourself more informed about these things.


    At least we practice thinking.

    I have wall to wall carpet except for in the 2 bathrooms and that has more to do with trying to avoid excessive moisture and mildew than paranoia. As far as the food we eat being designed to kill us I could give you a little history on Edward Bernays and how we got fluoride in our drinking water but I'm pretty sure you don't care how many are being slowly poisoned by industrial waste. I could tell you about how dangerous GM crops are to our health, I could tell you about how Monsanto is destroying God's creation by genetic manipulation...etc but you wouldn't listen or care and it would be a waste of my time because it doesn't fit into your corporate induced paradigm.

    I don't think our tv sets are watching us day and night but I do think people who watch their tv sets day and night are some of the most uniformed and brainwashed people on the planet.


    And who helped financed the Nazi's? Harriman Brown Brothers. Who was it that started bombing civilian populations first? The British. Who was it that suggested the use of chemical warfare against the Kurds in the 1920's and called it "a lively terror" on "uncivilized tribes"? Winston Churchill.

    I see, so depending on who uses terrorism it can be either "heroic" or "cowardly". I get it now, your sense of morality depends mostly on who's team you're rooting for. How wonderful and so Christ like.

    Links? Not saying I disagree but I'd just like to see some proof. BTW have you seen "The Power Of Nightmares"? I recommend it because looking at your statement here you seem to only posess about one third of the whole history of intell agencies and how they infiltrated and manipulated muslim "terrorist organizations" from the begining.

    Now this is a mouthful of subterfuge. US involment in Iran was because Britain feared the nationalizing of Iranian oil. The communist threat has always been a cover for corporate greed and terrorism.

    Yes they did and much to Kermit's suprise the coup of 1953 worked dispite all the mistakes. The US use of false flag terrorism as a tool for "regime change" was thereafter adopted and put to use in a whole slew of countries from then on up to and including today.

    Covered this already see above.

    This is no excuse for turning a blind eye to criminal actions by any government including our own. Our government's use of terrorism both abroad and on it's own citizens is well documented and yet it goes unpunished largely because of people that are willing to deny it, look the other way and make excuses for it.

    I'll not do any of the above. You can do as you like but when you condemn me for sticking to my guns and pointing out the obvious it puts you in the same boat with the perps that carry these crimes out you are just as responsible for these types of crimes as the perps themselves because you consent to them by your silence and misplaced sense of patriotism.

    Quite frankly so do I...the difference is I'm not afraid to call the government on it's crimes while you continue to make feable excuses for them.

    Who was behind the evil in 1912 and again in 1938 who allowed it to go on? Who financed the evil? C'mon you got all the anwsers who was it?

    And who was it that supported Karl Marx and talked him into writting his little manifesto smarty pants? C'mon you got all the answers so who was it?

    We have always been a nation of good honest hardworking and generous individuals. The problem is as it has always been corruption and greed in "high places". By trying to turn this around and say that "I hate the USA" because I won't go along with criminal acts by the state just goes to show how accustomed and comfortable you have become with defending such criminality.

    Look up and re read what I just typed. Don't even try to convince me that Christ would use false flag terrorism on others to satisfy human greed for power and control over others. I find this to be an outrageous insult against my Lord and savior.

    It has been turned into privileges that can be taken away by the state.

    As I set here typing the Pentagon is preparing it's "total spectrum domination program". Never heard of it? Figures.

    How do you know?

    They've already taken over the US you just won't accept the reality of it all.

    If you for one minute think that putting a man on a white horse in office is going to change any of the core policies the elite have put into place in this country you are sadly mistaken my friend. We are ruled by the "international community" our own government sold out to it long ago. Abortion and gay rights are tools of the elite to turn this nation against itself. Until you and everyone else including the liberals understand this one plain truth nothing you do will make any difference for the betterment of this country at all.

    We all need to concentrate on the real enemy and stop wasting all our energy chasing their decoys and useful idiots around.

    I'm going to let this slide because obviously you haven't a clue who the real enemy of this nation is and you have no urge to do anything but chase all his spookie little "Goldsteins" around till you drop from exhaution or just give up and accept "your fate", which you have admittedly done already.
     
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  6. Palatka51

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    I am free Poncho and no man, government or "total spectrum domination program" will ever take it away from me. I do not fear it nor do I live in paranoia. I have trusted God and the Son for my freedom and by the Holy Spirit, I live without fear of it ever being taken away.

    Governments of men have come and gone but the Kingdom of Christ is forever. The "New World Order" you fear so much will only last for 7 short years. Not you, not me and 100's of thousands of men are not going to stop its tide from rising.

    Trust Christ and be free from your fear Poncho.
     
  7. Ed Edwards

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    Amen, Brother Palatka51 -- Preach it! :thumbs:
     
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