Seminary

TBN is a spiritual JOKE!!!

Check this web page out also from

The Prince of the Preachers---the late, great Dr. Stephen Olford

www.olford.org

 

Likewise, if your intent was solely to ask a question about why some people call seminaries cemeteries, then all you had to do was ask that specific question. There was no need to quote the article you linked to and there was no need to include the attack on the NIV (these things have nothing to do with your real question).

Since this thread really is asking a question about seminary I am editing out all the unnecessary stuff from your OP and moving it to the Baptist Seminaries and Colleges Forum.

Yours in Christ,

Bible-boy,
Forum Moderator

 

I suggest that you re-read the BB Posting Rules, the BB User Agreement, and the specific BB rules that are stuck at the top of the Bible Versions and Translations Forum. Then you will know why I edited your OP and the rules you have agreed to play by when using this board. I was attempting to save you from further problems with your fellow posters and the BB Administrators.

Like I said above, according to your own statement you really only wanted to talk about why some people call seminaries cemeteries. Therefore, all the NIV attack stuff you included in your OP was actually off topic.:tonofbricks:

 

Great advice. :thumbs:

 

Expository preaching all the way and Dr. Olford modeled it well.

 

Do they offer DL courses? Just to learn a few things, not a whole degree; if you know what I mean.

 

==Amen, Amen, and Amen!!

 

Some people's anti-intellectualism reaches to the point of absurdity, that's why.

This guy (not "the Scribe" but the fella referred to in the OP) suffers from several logical flaws; I'll list a few and give examples:

Faulty Cause and Effect: "Wearing huge pants make you fat."

Judging the Whole by One of it's Characteristics: "The sun causes sunburns. Therefore, the planet would be better off without the sun."

Blaming the Tool: "I bought an encyclopedia, but I'm still not smart. Doggone thing must be defective."

Source: Scott Adams, "Dilbert"

 

==You leave church because of the actions of people? Why do you attend church? People or God? If you are looking for perfect people, your search will end in vain. However if you are looking for a perfect God, then you know where to find Him. Don't abandon church because of anything people do or say (Heb 10:25).

 

==The website you linked to in your OP about seminaries is seriously flawed. Just look up the term "amoral" and then look at how the "author" of the website you quoted uses it. His use of the term shows that he does not know what it means, and his claim that the NIV uses the term "amoral" is simply untrue. Those type of errors, and I am very sure there are plenty others on his site, are red flags. They are like caution lights flashing. Those mistakes are warning signs telling you that the author of that site is uninformed and is not in a position to be a leader/teacher. Be very careful when you are surfing the internet. Keep in mind that anyone, and I mean anyone, can put up a webpage and make all sorts of claims. That is why you need to study these issues for yourself and only use resources that are based on Scripture and fact.

 

People are proud of ignorance.. that is why they call them cemetaries...

See... simple answer.

I have always called TBN the real comedy channell
After all, they have a clown with purple or pink hair for a mascot!
How can anyone take them seriously?

Hey, do you realize that us Baptists are going first when Christ comes back... "The dead in Christ shall rise first"

It is the Baptists that are cemetaries.... (And I am proud to be a Baptist!!)

 

The word 'amoral' on the page cited by The Scribe is IMO a mis-spelling of the word 'immoral.' For indeed, the NIV does translate the word 'fornicator' to 'immoral' in 1 Cor. 5:9,10,11; 6:9; and Hebrews 12:16. Five verses use the word 'immoral.'

The author of the webpage may have made a mistake in translating hearing 'immoral, (uh-moral)' but translating it as amoral. Or it could be the author of the web page did not know how to spell 'immoral'.

 

I was wondering about that. The OP didn't make sense to me....I think you're right.


Scribe, nice to know your dedication by leaving your church because of a few possible weeds, or even some believers that were seriously struggling. In my mind, that should've made you want to reach them....but what do I know?raying:

 

==You are being very kind to the gentleman who published that webpage. The author uses the term more than once and has published it on his webpage. If it is a mis-spelling, and I am not giving him the benefit of the doubt on this as you are, then it continues to cast doubt on his credibility as a teacher. Why? Confusing "amoral" with "immoral" is a serious mistake regardless of the cause. If it is a mis-spelling, it shows he has not proof-read what he is posting on his website.

==Well, that causes me just as much worry as the other options. Not knowing how to spell a word is not an excuse since there are dictionaries in print and online (for free).

 

Does this mean I should worry about many of the poster's on the BaptistBoard because of their mis-spelling of words... which I do see quite often?

 

Naw! Not to worry!

Language Cop will (sic) 'em, if it is important enough! :type:

Only worry about it after they respond! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Ed

 

Seriously, you are missing the most obvious answer, here, although you actually touched on it. That is the word "hearing". IMO, the author of the page The Scribe linked to, heard someone (or some tape, some radio program, some video, or something similar) he 'trusted' (or more like whose opinion tended to agee with what he already 'believed') and 'cited' that, without even bothering to check the allegation, with the resultant drivel on the page, and I do mean drivel, here!

The question of whether or not the KJV, NIV, NKJV, HCSB, DARBY, NLT, to name a few, or any other translation is a good one, and which are 'better' than others, etc., or whether a rendering is accurate, the overall 'translation philosophy' of 'formal' vs. 'dynamic' (or something in between), what manuscripts and textual traditions are followed, etc., etc., are all legitimate debate topics worthy of consideration, IMO. Mindless drivel is not one of those categories, from this same opinion.

Had he or she even bothered to look it up, the word would have been obvious as "immoral", and BTW, one of the usual phrases (there were more than one) in the NIV, at least in the several instances I actually did check out, is "sexual immorality" (not "immoral") rendered by the NIV, where the KJV rendered "fornication". That fact alone was sufficient for me to conclude, that IMO, this was an obvious instance where one was "grinding his or her axe", as opposed to doing even the most basic research.

So I decided to invest the same effort, as did the author of the page, and decided that I already had done even more of that, already, than had the author of the page, hence would not waste any more time researching and checking out more "drivel".

BTW, I am not an overall fan of the NIV by any stretch.

Ed

 

==No, these forums are like email and thus I think we can expect some goofs. However I am talking about a man who published a website without proofreading or checking his facts. That represents a serious credibility problem. When he found himself typing the term "amoral" he should have stopped and made sure that was the correct term. Of course, that assumes he knows what "amoral" means. However I doubt he does know what the term means since he did say "Fornication is certainly amoral ". Clearly this guy thinks "amoral" is the same as "immoral". This is more than a simple spelling error. This is a spelling error that reflects (a) a lack of personal research on the issue and (b) not understanding the terms he is using. These are serious problems when we are dealing with someone who is presenting themselves as a teacher on a specific issue.