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Serious doubt cast on nasa’s ‘2014 hottest year on record’ claim

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Jan 18, 2015.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    Late last week, media outlets all across the country rushed to report that NASA had claimed 2014 as the “hottest year on record.” But now, serious doubts have been cast on that claim, with some saying that climate scientists left out data and even made data up to reach the desired claim.

    After NASA’s claims made news around world, Gavin Schmidt of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies had to admit that there was “margin of error” to the stats. In fact, the agency is now only 38 percent sure that they are right about the whole “hottest year” claim.

    What most media outlets didn’t note was that the “hottest year” claim was based on a rise over the 2010 record of a mere 0.02°C—that is only two-hundredths of a degree. Yet the margin of error was 0.10°C, quite a bit higher than the supposed record-setting rise over 2010.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...t-on-nasas-2014-hottest-year-on-record-claim/
     
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    The Great Lakes were all but frozen solid and it was a cool summer here in the Great Lakes region so everyone around here says that they didn't mean that this part of the country had a hot year.

    The US government has taken to lying as much as Fidel and Raul Castro.
     
  3. Revmitchell

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    Dr. Roy Spencer is a real problem for global warmists. They can't say he's not a climate scientist, because he is. They can't accuse him of taking oil industry money, because all the funding he's ever received has come from the U.S. government - including his work with NASA, NOAA and the Department of Energy.

    And they can't refute his arguments, because he knows what he's talking about and they don't. So when he comes across their latest nonsense - this time the claim that 2014 was the warmest year on record - he takes aim and destroys the claim in beautiful fashion:

    Science as a methodology for getting closer to the truth has been all but abandoned. It is now just one more tool to achieve political ends.

    Reports that 2014 was the “hottest” year on record feed the insatiable appetite the public has for definitive, alarming headlines. It doesn’t matter that even in the thermometer record, 2014 wasn’t the warmest within the margin of error. Who wants to bother with “margin of error”? Journalists went into journalism so they wouldn’t have to deal with such technical mumbo-jumbo. I said this six weeks ago, as did others, but no one cares unless a mainstream news source stumbles upon it and is objective enough to report it.

    In what universe does a temperature change that is too small for anyone to feel over a 50 year period become globally significant? Where we don’t know if the global average temperature is 58 or 59 or 60 deg. F, but we are sure that if it increases by 1 or 2 deg. F, that would be a catastrophe?

    Where our only truly global temperature measurements, the satellites, are ignored because they don’t show a record warm year in 2014?

    In what universe do the climate models built to guide energy policy are not even adjusted to reflect reality, when they over-forecast past warming by a factor of 2 or 3?

    And where people have to lie about severe weather getting worse (it hasn’t)? Or where we have totally forgotten that more CO2 is actually good for life on Earth, leading to increased agricultural productivity, and global greening?

    It’s the universe where political power and the desire to redistribute wealth have taken control of the public discourse. It’s a global society where people believe we can replace fossil fuels with unicorn farts and antigravity-based energy.

    Feelings now trump facts.

    At least engineers have to prove their ideas work. The widgets and cell phones and cars and jets and bridges they build either work or they don’t.

    In climate science, whichever side is favored by politicians and journalism graduates is the side that wins.

    And what about those 97% of scientists who agree? Well, what they all agree on is that if their government climate funding goes away, their careers will end.

    http://www.caintv.com/climate-scientist-dr.roy-spenc
     
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    I've never understood how there could be so much confidence in temperture readings for days gone by. I may be talking out of turn, but we're talking about percentage of a degree, were instruments even able to measure that precise?
     
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    Remember, too, that in quite a few cases you have a temperature measuring station built on the outskirts of a town that then grew, but the station never moved, thus trapping the measuring device within the "heat dome" generated by any city (where sunlight and heat absorbed by the pavement radiates out, leaving the city a few degrees warmer than the surrounding suburbs).
     
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    Climatologists are well aware of the urban heat island effect, and attempt to account for it in analyzing temperature data. Whether said accounting is accurate has been controversial, as has been the inappropriate siting (often close to airport pavement) of some instument clusters.

    "Warmest Ever!" is news, but the fact that the margin of difference is far smaller than the margin of error is not. We shouldn't be surprised.
     
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