Sexist Bully: What's Behind the War on Women?

Yes, C.T.Boy. To bring my wife into it, and tell everyone how little I must value her, is a personal attack. A stupid, dishonest, and desperate attempt to get your subject changed. To say I want women to die is a strawman I know better than to answer. It is a lie. Why would I dignify it with a response.

I believe it is you, who refuses to answer the question. I am not putting words into your mouth. I am asking a simple question, of which I would assume anyone but an atheist troll would be glad to answer. Since you brought up birth control, and ridiculed republicans for giving farms help, yet trying to have people get their own birth control, it is fair game.

Is the Holy Spirit leading you to tell us that birth control should be funded publicalluy ?

 

You DID sday something about funding birth control. You did. It's fair game. That is what this Fluke girl wants. She wants free birth control. I am glad Rush made fun of that position. I am asking if that is your position, since you brought it up.
The rest of your post is you putting more words in my mouth and I'm not responding to it.

I am completely comfortable in this conversation. Abortion is the liberal sacrament. That is why you fight so hard to protect it.

 

You mentioned it as a part of your fabled "war on women". Number 4 on yer list. Don't try to weasel out of it. If you didn't want free birth control, you wouldn't have put opposition to it as part of the war.

 

Yes it was

 

Well, I'm a woman so here is what I think:

If women are making 80% of what a man makes then they should be happy its not the 60% they were making in the 70's IF they could even find a job! Why? Because men don't take off 3 months at a time for baby making, they rarely take off to deal with the kids once they are here and they don't have to take the kids to soccar practice in the afternoons. Is it fair that women have to do these things? No, but child bearing is part of our biological makeup and all we can do is complain to God or our local evolutionist about how they could do that to us. And well, I don't think our biology is going to change any time soon. (yeah, I'm the last of my breed: a stay at home mother)

Birth control. We already have free birth control. Its very simple thing: the word "no". Just as soon as we say yes, we better be willing to be used as a baby carrier for the next 9 months. It's that pesky biological makeup thing again. It's not fair that we should be burdened with this responsibility but complaints to God and the evolutionists just haven't changed this yet. (though I do understand that in heaven there will be no male or female.....so maybe God is paying attention after all. The evolutionists, not so much)

Chemical and barrier methods of birth control simply aren't 100% effective. Sorry, I had a bc baby. Lots of people have bc babies. If you don't want to be parent take some responsibility and use that two letter little word. Fair? Since when is life fair?? My paying for some teenager's birth control isn't going to stop bc babies from being conceived. Possibly more babies will be born because more people will be having s*x and believing they are safe from the consequences!

Abortion. I'm going to shock some of you. We Christians believe life begins at conception. We are probably right. But guess what? Not everyone does! Why should our position be forced on those who don't believe in Christ? If, as we believe, the unborn are innocent before God, then the unaware life that exists in the womb is headed for heaven if it is killed. The poor woman who thought she had no choice but abort, the one who aborted out of selfish reasons and the one forced to abort by her gov are all headed to the same place if they don't accept the forgiveness that is in Christ. It won't matter that they murdered their baby. We are making an issue out of something that won't matter in eternity!! If we spent as much money on preaching Christ as we do on anti-abortion this and pro-life that we wouldn't be having this problem in the first place. Way too many people believe that "being a Christian" is following a set of rules determined by some preacher and not nearly enough of us who know better are telling them any differently!

Anyhow, I will now give the soapbox over to someone else.

 

You did shock me with your stance on abortion...

Otherwise, well said.

God has never insinuated, hinted, winked at, or otherwise given us the first indication that we have the right to take pre-born life because it is innocent and will proceed directly to heaven. He harshly judged nations that practiced such behavior in the OT record. Those that took for granted infant life were called out by God for that practice.

Rather, we are to bear, love, nurture, raise up, teach, train, evangelize, disciple, and send into the world the children that He gifts us with.

I even think that I know why you said what you said -- I believe that it stems from a sincere belief of love that you hold, but I would ask that you prayerfully reconsider that part of your response for it does not match up to the whole counsel of God's Word in part or in the whole.

 

Because it is not just a Christian issue. It is a matter of life and death.

 

Puh-leeze. They added the word "forcible"; if that's the basis of your argument, then please define "non-forcible rape."

Puh-leeze. What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? How many times in the last few years have we seen exceptionally high-profile cases of rape accusations that turned out to be accusations, not victims?

Puh-leeze.

By "the only federal family planning program," I can only assume you mean Planned Parenthood. You really, really, really need to re-examine your position on federal support of this organization. When they lie to a breast cancer organization about performing breast cancer checks in order to get donations; when they lie to prospective abortion clients, and encourage their abortion clients to lie; well, the list is LONG.

Puh-leeze. The actual language of the bill was targeted towards elective abortions and preventing the federal government from forcing healthcare providers from *having* to perform abortions, even if they accept Medicare/Medicaid.

But don't let the truth stop you.

You made a statement that the medical emergency abortion occurs more often than we think; however, you can't prove that statement. Of abortion statistics, I can't find a single one that identifies abortions performed for medical emergency/necessity. Not from the CDC, not from Planned Parenthood, not one. And I've been searching for these types of statistics for over 10 years. Please, if you know of such statistics, then provide the links so I can do the research.

Oh, and your statement about the wife? Granted this is an emotionally charged topic, and we can let our emotions run away with us; but that was uncalled for. You should have just left it at the question, and not added the comment.

 

He sure does! Just ask the young girls in the Dominican Republic...

 

Wow... Just wow... You never fail to amaze me with the depths of your perverted mind. Just about the time when it seems that the conversation is already in the gutter, you come along and add some human excrement to it.

Thanks for doing what you do best!

 

Women are not under their husband's authority.

And have you seen the way people are? Go to walmart. Most of the men there are selfish buffoons and idiots.

 

Which profane words did Rush use? You make it appear that he used curse words. Did he?

 

So, according to the definition you just posted, you have profaned Rush and many others here on the board. Hmmmm... Funny how when one points a finger at others how all the other fingers point right back at him or herself!

 

I never said God did condone such acts and didn't mean to hint that it was okay by God for anyone to kill their born or unborn children (though you can find an awful lot more instructions for the born children than the unborn in scripture.) And God did judge nations that practiced infant sacrifice. That said, God told *US* not to do such, he didn't tell us to force that instruction on anyone not included in our faith. A subject for another day it that of whether we should ever begin wars to force another culture to our way of thinking.

As far as the issue of whether or not innocent life proceeds straight to He who Created it, well, that seems to depend on whether or not one believes in Total Depravity (which seems to state that no living human cells might possibly be considered innocent before God). I don't, you do, no use arguing it again.

Yep, that is how we Christians believe. Hopefully that is how most people believe, but you know as well as I do, that belief is not practice. And our practice is much different that say a Muslim parent's or an atheist's practice. Here again is the question: Do we have the right to force our practice on someone else OR is our focus to preach Christ to the whole world?

Perhaps, but just as likely I dislike that OT wrath which was done away with at the cross continues to color so darkly the sacrifice that was made and accepted once for the whole world. Yeah, if you want to define world as chosen go ahead, I can work with that too. If as you say, God's chosen are chosen and all He has chosen will come to Him, then why do worry about the wrath that will be applied to all who are "not chosen"? Even in my own view, people either chose Christ or not, what can I do to spare them the wrath to come in eternity. If they will not believe, will not heed the calling of the Holy Spirit or do not hear the word in time, then we humans, no matter what laws we pass, cannot change their final destiny. Changing laws is a waste of time. Telling people the sacrifice is made for their sins is so much more productive.

I agree it's not just a Christian issue. It's an American issue and the majority(who have no real understanding of what it means to be Christian despite the statistics) seem to think the laws are just fine as they are. It's been argued since the 70s and nothing has changed. It's time we as Christians put our energies elsewhere.

What are we gaining for Christ by continuing to fight to change abortion rights laws? (btw, we should be fighting having to pay for abortions through Obama care because that is a direct affront to our freedom of religious practice. But we don't fight that from a simple Christian perspective, but from a Constitutional perspective of our first ammendment rights, because when we infringe on the basics, soon we will have no foundation for justice and law in this country whatsoever.)