Shepherd's Theological

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  1. Rhetorician

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    From what I hear, it is a up and coming school. They are currently in the process of seeking TRACS accreditation.
     
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    The faculty looks to be first-class and being based in a strong local church as they are, it should be a strong school. Up and coming is an apt description.
     
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    Yes, it does look good. I have just looked through their doctrinal statement, and the only things I don't agree with are the statement on national Israel and the premillenial stance, but I see they say at the end:
    This confession of faith is to be reaffirmed annually by each member of the faculty, staff and administration. Before graduation, students are likewise asked to indicate their agreement, and those who cannot agree with this confession of faith will submit a statement of their own on the area(s) of disagreement.

     
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    It has an anti-psychology orientation if you like that sort of thing.
     
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    It seems like one of their profs degrees from Trinity Theological Seminary, Newburgh, IN., is not going to affect their TRACS pursuit.
     
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    I counted three professors with degrees or candidates for degrees from Trinity (Newburgh). One also has a doctorate from Masters divinity school.
    I liked the thesis option for those who want to continue on for a Ph.D.
     
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    with so many individuals out there with accredited (i.e. legitimate) degrees, why would a seminary even hire those with unaccredited degrees?

    does that bother anyone else or am i just being irritable today?
     
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    Anti-psychology?

    Do you mean anti-psychology or anti-psychotherapy, specifically secular psychotherapy. There is a difference, you know.

    My fields are psychometrics (testing psychology) and counseling psychology but I am anti-secular psychotherapy. So is Richard Ganz (http://www.rpcottawa.org/meet.php) who holds a Ph.D. in clinical psychology. There are others likewise in the field.
     
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    Unaccredited v. legitimate

    Accredited and legitimate are not synomyous. Non-accredited degrees (i.e. unaccredited) can be legitimate (i.e. legal) and acceptable to some degree (pun intended). Furthermore, BJU bucked the accreditation thing for well over half-a-century. All new schools begin as unaccredited and may be accredited later. I recommend that you consult the many discussions on other threads for further information.

    The question is how well these professors teach and the level of their scholarship. Some accredited degree holders are duds--believe me!

    I don't think you are being irritable but I do think you are being overly simplistic in judging by one factor that may or may not affect quality. What do you say?
     
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    Individual reasons for unaccredited degrees

    One must understand that some of these (e.g. Don Sandberg) have been teaching at seminary level for a number of years and need the expected Dr. in front of their names. It may be seen as a validation of what they are already doing and have accomplished. This is one point of view.
     
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    I hadn't heard of Professor Sandberg before, Paidagogos. Do you know where else he has taught?​



    Don Sandberg
    Assistant Professor of Apologetics



    B.S.—Tennessee Temple University.

    M.A.—Trinity Theological Seminary
    Ph.D.Candidate, Trinity Theological Seminary

    I kind of respect that John MacArthur never sought an unaccredited doctoral degree, to complement his accredited degrees. His doctorate is honorary.
     
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    Don Sandberg

    I thought he taught at Tennessee Temple University and Temple Baptist Seminary but he may have taught high school. This may be a time when my memory has played me false or I confused Don with someone else.
     
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    If TRACS doesn't have a problem with his Trinity (Newburgh), Why should we?
     
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    I have a buddy that currently attends there. If I were to go out east it would be between there and Central of Virginia Beach. I have heard it been called the "mini-Masters" seminary. I have only heard good things about it.

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    Confusing the Don Sandbergs

    It appears that I may be confusing this Don Sandberg with his father, Don Sandberg, who married one of John R. Rice's daughters, Jesse. You may check with John of Japan on this board who is this Don Sandberg's cousin. The Don Sandberg, who teaches at Shepherd's, is Dr. John R. Rice's grandson. I thought that he had taught at TTU/TBS but it may have been his father. It appears that the Don Sandberg at Shepherd's was a high school science teacher. I posted a short response earlier but I did not have time to elaborate. I am sorry for the confusion.
     
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    Pedigrees of Men

    Who decides if a Right Reverend Doctor degree is legitimate or not? Whatever happened to the humility class? God is no respecter of persons. Bishoprics are not for sale.:godisgood:

    Selah, and Shalom

    Bro. James
     
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    Bro James Response

    Bro. James,

    It is good to hear from you again. I have not seen you on this portion of the BB in a while--have I?

    Are you saying that formal education for the minister up to and including a doctoral degree is not a thing to be coveted, earned, or used for God's glory?

    Why, Brother James, you and I both know of fellow ministers who "glory in their ignorance" do we not?

    If I knew someone who "gloried" or was not thought to be humble; I would much rather it be someone who was not humble about doing something rather than someone who had done nothing! Think about it?:laugh:

    If I have misunderstood what you said I beg forgiveness ahead of time?!:wavey:

    sdg!:thumbs:

    rd
     
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    The best example I can think of would be Dr. Nicodemus, John 3. He was at least a Master of Israel. He had not a clue regarding salvation--even after Jesus gave him several clues. In fact there is no real evidence that Nicodemus ever figured it out. Was he leading people into the ditch?

    We are commanded to: Preach the Word; reprove, rebuke, and exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. If this is possible after many years of theological studies, perhaps there is some merit in having many letters in front and behind one's name. I am still persuaded such causes more stumbling than edification. God usually chooses the foolish--to confound the wise.

    Nothing wrong with a little polish in communication skills, but some things taught in seminary lead to more confusion--especially higher textual criticism. We need more Bible thumping, hell-fire/brimstone preachers--but that would lead to much lower attendance and offerings.

    Now what?

    Selah,

    Bro. James
     
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    Bro. James,

    Isn't it wonderful that God has used and continues to use those with degrees and those without?
     

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