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Featured Shock Video: Ukrainian Neo-Nazis Nail Rebel Fighter to Cross, Burn Him Alive

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Apr 26, 2015.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    You admit posting something as "proof" without being able to verify it? :eek:

    If it's okay for you to do that why isn't okay for me to do it Lewis?

    Correction, you quoted a corporate sponsored Russian defense expert that works for a corporate sponsored think tank. Think, say the right thing or find another job. That offered no other evidence but his word.

    Excuse me for being skeptical Lewis but I'm old enough to remember all the lies the corporate sponsored "experts" told us about Iran (Contra) Iraq, Libya and others in the lead ins to other military interventions that have turned into expensive debacles that cost this nation dearly. It's the same lies, the same demonize the leader crap Washington and the media shovel out to prime us for another costly military intervention that in all probability will be another never ending exercise in chaos and killing.

    What it says is I just "sandbagged" you Lewis. I knew you or someone like you that has been regularly posting unverified "reports" and calling fowl when asked to back up those reports with some honest to goodness evidence would have one of those "ah hah! I got Poncho now" moments and reveal his/her hypocritical side by questioning the veracity of this video after they have demonstrated no interest in whether or not what they are posting can be verified with evidence. Not "he said, she said, they said" "evidence" but real hard evidence.

    The video was the cheese in my trap. How's it taste Lewis?


    Actually Lewis it's well documented that neo nazis play a big role in Ukraine's military and political affairs. It's in all the papers.


    So? What does what Putin said have to do with anything? Don't you get it yet? Politicians lie Lewis that's what they do. Russian politicians lie, Ukrainian politicians lie, British politicians and American politicians lie.

    They lie. It's the only thing they're really good at. Otherwise they'd have honest jobs that add value to society instead of draining it.
    Strawman Alert! I never made any claims about anti-Semitism in Ukraine one way or the other Lewis. Being a Ukrainian "neo nazi" doesn't automatically make one an anti-Semite, but most view the Russian speaking population as "subhuman" no differently than the Nazis viewed Jews. So, it seems you are the one confused here.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...brigade-fighting-pro-Russian-separatists.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_%28political_party%29

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis

    ... leader of Ukraine's "Right Sector" political party, whose adherents are shown in the photos below...

    ... and whose political ideology has been described as nationalist, ultranationalist, neofascist, right-wing, or far right, was just appointed as Advisor to Chief of General Staff.

    From the Ukraine ministry of defense: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-05/leader-ukraines-ultranationalist-right-sector-appointed-army-advisor

    Now here's the real funny thing Lewis, in all the months and all the threads that have been about Ukraine I can't remember any of you that have taken part in it as ever having admitted that Washington aided and supported the violent coup that led to the overthrow of a government that was elected by the people of that nation.

    It's what they call a well documented fact but none of you will go near it.

    Now why is that Lewis?

    Personally I think none of you will admit it because admitting it would throw your whole unfounded unverified but often uncritically repeated corporate sponsored narrative of "Russian aggression" out the window.
     
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