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Shold the Navy allow women on subs?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Salty, Feb 24, 2010.

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  1. Yes, all women should normally be treated the same as men

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  2. Yes, unless they are pregnant

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  3. Yes, if they volunteer

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  4. Yes, but only for deployments of no more than 10 days

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  5. NO, NO, NO

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  6. not sure

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  7. Other answer

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  1. abcgrad94

    abcgrad94 Active Member

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    Did you read the article? It said they would give the women separate bathrooms and sleeping quarters. The reason why women have not been allowed before is because of this, but now they can better accommodate women.

    Whether we agree with women in the military or not is not the issue. Women are already allowed in the military in other areas, so the question is should they be allowed on subs as well.

    By the way, I thank God for the men AND women serving to protect our country. If more men were willing to step up to the plate, maybe the women wouldn't feel the need to do so!
     
  2. Revmitchell

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    I doubt women feel the need because of a lack of men.
     
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    I'd agree with that. Living in an Army town, I know many of soldiers, both men and women. Most of the women have some of the same reasons for joining as the men: money for school, learning a trade, seeing the world, etc. Some even like serving their country!
     
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    Women shouldn't be voting let alone serving on subs.
     
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    It is interesting that the only two reasons to deny women the ability to serve on subs ended up being a) it isn't their biblical role or b) the subs will just become underwater tubes of debauchery.

    Wow. I mean really? I was hoping to see some actual data about possible biological considerations or physical limitations. Some kind of reasoned response, but all we got is old criticisms.

    I think both are silly. You can't enforce the biblical roles for marriage and the church on the larger society. I also don't think that the roles are use in the larger society. Then whole hooking up while underwater is pretty flimsy too. While some instances occur Im pretty certain it is both an ad hoc criticism and just not supported by the evidence. It doesn't really transfer across military lines.

    Finally, at this stage of the game the biggest naval competitor the US has is Chinas noisy fleet of diesel subs. They won't be getting anywhere near our ships or shore. I don't know why need to think about this one, seems like a no brainer.
     
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    That is hilarious. I will no longer be taking you seriously.
     
  7. Aaron

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    That's okay. I never took you seriously.:tongue3:
     
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    So you're all for same sex marriage?
     
  9. BlessedWife

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    I did read the article, but I must have overlooked the part where they mentioned accommodations would be made for the privacy of the men and women on board. My apologies. Even still, we're talking about people of the opposite sex in very close quarters for extended periods of time. I can't help but wonder what sort of indiscretions it could lead to.

    Weighing all of the information I still say no. Just as I wouldn't agree with allowing women in the Infantry either.

    I thank God for the men and women serving to protect our Nation and our freedoms as well. I don't pray any less for our females in uniform just because of my views on women in the service. In fact, I pray more for them because they are in greater danger. Although I doubt their desire to serve has anything to do with a lack of men enlisting. Women don't feel the need to serve. They want to serve, and because we live in a society corrupted by feminism they are not only made to feel they are entitled to work the jobs traditionally held by men that are borderline unsuitable for women, but compelled also as a means to prove something to themselves and others.
     
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    Why not? It was done for centuries. And most agreed it was the right thing.

    Really? Like this one that popped up right next to the USS Kitty Hawk -
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    "Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors."

     
  11. Salty

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    Niteshift,
    You have to stop confusing these folks with the FACTS ! :thumbsup:
     
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    I will if you will :tongue3:
     
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    No a woman does npot belong on a Naval Sub. It doesn't seem right to me.:flower:
     
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    Can anyone explain why women have been allowed on Navy ships since 1978 but not subs? All the arguments presented here also apply to Navy ships.
     
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    I could be wrong, but I think maybe subs go out for longer periods of time without landing anywhere. Maybe someone here knows for sure.
     
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    No they stay out about the same time. Subs are much more crowded than ships as they are smaller. If a female becomes pregnant on a 6 month deployment ( which is common for ships and subs) then the pressure of being at those depths for that period of time places the unborn child in serious risk. Recycled submarine air is another health factor for pregnant women. Discovering a pregnancy during a mission would put the mission at risk and cost the military millions of dollars to interrupt the deployment to return the female back to station.

    Women are not permitted in quite a few areas of service in the Military not just on subs.
     
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    I would have voted for

    a simple NO.
     
  18. Marcia

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    Thanks for the info. Makes sense to me.
     
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    According to the article in the OP, the Navy claims its reason for the ban was the cost of accommodating women in tight quarters but newer larger subs apparently do not pose these problems.
     
  20. Revmitchell

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    Here is a couple of articles that support my previous post.




     
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