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Should Christians Have a Marriage License?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Hawaiiski, Oct 18, 2008.

  1. SaggyWoman

    SaggyWoman Active Member

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    In North Carolina, parents don't have to be married to be listed on the birth certificate.
     
  2. Dale-c

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    They should not if they are not married :)

    All kidding aside I have heard before that the state has somehow hijacked marriage from the jurisdiction of the church. But to be honest, where does the church find biblical authority over marriage?
    That is a serious question and not rhetorical at all.
     
  3. SaggyWoman

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    Oklahoma has the common law marriage too.

    I guess I can't be in NC.
     
  4. superwoman8977

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    I have to admit I have never heard at least in my state or in the 31 years I have been alive that I didnt have to have a marriage license to be married. I thought the license sealed the deal so to speak and let me tell you the license so helped me when it came to the divorce. :tonofbricks:
     
  5. donnA

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    In Ky there is no common law marriage, you want to be legally married you need a license.
    There are a lot of legal issuses around just living together and not being actually married. Not to mention if you aren't actually married it's nothing more then fornacation, sex outside of marriage.
     
  6. Marcia

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    Are these really laws or just what people thought were laws? Also, are these maybe laws from awhile ago that are no longer valid?

    Just wondering.
     
  7. Marcia

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    I don't this is true.

    Also, it's possibly evidence, imo, of a rebellious attitude not to obey the law.
     
  8. Jim1999

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    In Canada, if the minister signs and seals the certificate is a valid certificate of marriage. It will have the minister's provincial number next to his name....the names are submitted to government civic files, not the piece of paper.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  9. donnA

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    When the hospital and the state tell you you can not put just anyone as father on a birthcertifice, but your husband only, then it sin't just what people think are laws then. The people I described were told this by the hospital, and in my mom's case a judge when they had to go to court over child support and paternity.
     
  10. faithgirl46

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    I agree with ou
    Faithgirl
     
  11. Jim1999

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    Marcia, I checked the internet on the State of Kentucky regarding birth certificates, and it says a man's name may apear on the birth certificate if a blood test says that he is the father, whether they couple are married or not. Otherwise, the whole law was rather confusing.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  12. gb93433

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    If a man and woman do not love each other enough to make it legal then they do not love each other enough to get married.
     
  13. Marcia

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    Thanks for the info, Jim!

    So the father's name can appear on the birth certificate even if he is not married to the mother. That is what I thought the law was in most if not all states. I can see why a blood test would be required if the couple are not married.
     
  14. donnA

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    try it here and see, it won't happen.
    My son just married a woman who is older then him, who has children. One of which is 18 and just had a baby in Aug. They would not let her put Ronnies name on Daniel Ray's birth certificate becasue they aren't married.
     
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  15. superwoman8977

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    We are working with this since I am pregnant and I called down to the Clerk's office yesterday and I can use my ex husbands last name because it is my last name and also I can put the father of the baby on the birth certificate IF I am going to go for child support which I am or I can put the father as unknown and gofor the support later. 10 years ago when I did this with my 1st child, I put the father as unknown when he was born and then after we went to court and established support and everything then we changed his name to his dad's last name and put his dad's name on the birth certificate. So thats how Indiana works.
     
  16. donnA

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    You can go to court here and have it added, but here it's costly, you ahve to have DNA testing to prove he's the father.
     
  17. youngmom4

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    In most states, the law actually will not allow the father's name on the birth certificate if the parents aren't married UNLESS he is there to sign the paperwork for the birth certificate. The idea behind these laws is to protect innocent men from being named fathers on birth certificates with no proof that they actually fathered the child. If the father is there and voluntarily signs the paperwork, his name is recorded just as if the parents were married. Additionally, if the father does not sign the paperwork for whatever reason, the mother need only go through whatever state agency handles child support issues and request a paternity test. Once DNA establishes that the father is indeed the father, the state agency will add the father to the birth certificate. The reason it has been made so complicated has little to do with the state wanting parents to be married and much to do with the number of men who have accused men of fathering their children in the past just to get money out of them.
     
  18. donnA

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    This is what I have been saying.
    Which has nothing to do with the thread topic, which i see no one is discussing anymore.
     
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