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Should Libby Be Pardoned?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Daisy, Mar 7, 2007.

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  1. Moot question - the conviction won't stand

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  2. Yes - lying to protect the WH (loyalty) should be rewarded

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  3. Yes - other people did worse

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  4. Yes - in spite of the jury's findings and the law as written, he did nothing wrong

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  5. Yes - other reason (please state)

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  6. No - he got caught and convicted, let him do the time

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  7. No - and the Cheney should be prosecuted too

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  8. Unsure

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  9. Don't care one way or the other

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  10. Who?

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  1. bobbyd

    bobbyd New Member

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    I just hope i never have to go to court for forgetting who i spoke to about what...i mean, i forget what my wife tells me to get from the local grocery story just 2 minutes after i pull out of the driveway.
     
  2. Petra-O IX

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    I could live with Libby being pardoned if our President were to first pardon Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean first.
     
  3. carpro

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    :thumbs: Not a bad idea!
     
  4. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    What thye need to do is find them innocent since they are. As should libby be.
     
  5. Jack Matthews

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    The Bush administration will have a long list of pardons by the time this is all over with. Libby shouldn't be pardoned, but he will be.
     
  6. DQuixote

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    That sort of sums it up, huh?

    Joe Wilson's wife's status had nothing to do with it. And.... she was no deep cover agent to begin with.
     
  7. Rufus_1611

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    She was a NOC (Non Official Cover officer), it doesn't get too much deeper than that.
     
  8. DQuixote

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    As aired on cspan today on the investigation conducted by Henry Waxman, Mrs. Tensing (who wrote the law concerning outing covert CIA agents) testified under oath that valarie Plame does not qualify as covert. Waxman responded by asserting that a general had informed him that mrs. Plame was covert and Mrs. Tensing asked him if the General had testified under oath to that.


    So as we see it is now settled that Plame was not covert.
     
  9. Terry_Herrington

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    It's hard to believe that you really watched CSPAN today since you cannot even spell Victoria Toensing's name correctly! Just exactly what do you know about Ms. Toensing? If you check her out, you will find that she is a right-wing hack attorney who is friends with Robert Novak, and she has worked in several Republican administrations in the past. Toensing is hardly a non-partisan source of information.
     
  10. Pastor Larry

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    And neither is Waxman. He is a leftwing political hack.

    I watched some of this (most of it I think). I am not sure how much time was left when I turned away for a bit but when I came back it was over.

    Toensing was speaking about the legal criminal definition under the IIPA. She does not know what Hayden was talking about, or how he was using the word covert (whether legally under the statute or colloquially).
     
  11. Baptist in Richmond

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    :laugh: :applause: :applause:

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  12. Baptist in Richmond

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    Oh, so it's okay to misstate something, even under oath?
    Have you ever been sworn in during a court case? I have, and I was told that if I did not know the answer, then "I don't recall" or "I don't remember, Your Honor" are perfectly acceptable responses. As a matter of fact, the latter was precisely how I answered a question while I was on the witness stand.

    If Bush pardons Scooter, it will turn into a windfall for the Democrats.

    Regards Pastor Larry,
    BiR
     
  13. Pastor Larry

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    Those weren't my words. They were a part of the article I was linking.

    However, to answer your question, No of course not. My point is that it may have been a perfectly innocent mistake. (I don't know.)

    But the fact that he was being pursued in a criminal investigation in which there was no crime, and it was known at the time of the questioning that there was no crime, it seems strange.

    I don't care whether he is pardoned or not.
     
  14. Baptist in Richmond

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    Oh, sorry: I knew that - simply expounding on your post.

    That is why you are warned prior to taking the stand that you need to be very clear when you are answering questions when under oath.

    The same thing happened to former President Clinton. The whole Monica Lewinsky affair had nothing to do with Whitewater. Wasn't that just as strange?

    Agreed, but I am a little curious to see if President Bush will pardon him. I don't think he wants that to be part of his legacy.

    Regards,
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  15. Pastor Larry

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    But I think the substance is different. Lying about potential abuse of power and sexual harassment (when that was an ongoing issue) and making what was possibly an innocent mistake about the time of conversations from months and months earlier are two different things, it seems to me.
     
  16. StraightAndNarrow

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    Why should he be pardoned?
     
  17. Petra-O IX

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    Because he should be rewarded for his undying loyalty to the cause fo the Bush Society and the New World Order.Well any way that is what I would believe if I was a loyal Bushite.:BangHead:
     
  18. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Because ther was no crime.
     
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