Should obese people be required to pay higher insurance?

Hello,

I apologize. Sorry. I just wish people would take personal responsibility and realize when they are obese they hurt themselves, their family, and others.

Then people get upset when the government tries to find a way to cut the costs these people bring.

America needs to change. The most obese nation on earth.

I love fat people, my family is huge. I just don't like their damaging behaviour.

Peace.

 

Change is needed.

People do need to take accountability for their own actions.

You are judgemental and need to take accountability for that. You are rude and need to change.

 

I am glad you clarified that your response was sarcasm.

There are way to many people who would seriously agree with your post.

 

Hi,

We talked about that a few weeks ago, if your remember well, about private insurances and such a criteria ... there we are.

For that time, i honestly think it's an acceptable criteria from a profit-insurance point of view, because most of us CAN do something about obesity and overweight.

Many will call upon genetics, psychology, and many reasons ... it's possible. But we all know that if you're eating rubbish, your body stocks fat and your mass grows.

I can understand being in overweight, but not people " staying " in obesity. If there are not " medical " criterias, but just the way they eat that makes them like that, WHY don't they do anything ?
I guess the fact " many " are in the same case doesn't help, and people feel more comfortable, like a lobby.

Years ago, there was a polemic here, because some fat people were asked double rate in planes because they were so big they took two places.

http://miscellanea.wellingtongrey.net/comics/2007-05-06--world-fatness.png

 

:thumbsup:

 

I really didn't mean we should do these things, no more then we shoul;d charge others more for whatever they do like eat too much, or be skinny and eat too much high fat foods.
Thanks for understanding.

 

Even though I am fat, I can understand your thoughts on the matter. Your way of putting them forth really, really needs some work and tact, but I do understand.

Some compare obesity to smoking, or drinking alcohol, or doing drugs. Yes, all are things that no one does to you, and many who are obese are far because they gorge themselves. But being obese can be much more than just overeating.

Poor people tend to be more obese then the non-poor. Why? Because the food that is dirt cheap is the worst stuff that a person could eat nutritionally. High fat, high calorie, with no redeeming attributes. But it is what they can afford.

Nutritional education is also sadly lacking in the US. And I'm not talking about the charts and crap that the government has used for their "educational; purposes" for years and years. These charts were based off of assumptions and not facts, and the medical community is beginning to see this. But most do not know how to build a balanced diet, pure and simple.

You also have tradition. I live in the South. That means I have grown up on fried foods, lots of comfort foods, lots of fats, and all in large amounts. This is not just true in the South, either... and most tend to keep on eating what they grew up with.

Besides medical conditions that could cause obesity (and, yes, the percentage of obese who are that way because of a specific condition are small), there are other physical factors that can come into play. For me, I have a very slow metabolism and come from a family that is big all the way around... tall, broad, and heavy, and have been for many generations. I am not the only one, I am sure. For me, this means that I have an even harder time of losing weight (but I am losing it nonetheless).

Oh, and let's not forget that the nation as a whole is much less active than it used to be. That's not excuse for anyone, but it affects everyone regardless.

So, what does all this say? Being obese is each person's own fault, yes. But it is simply not that each obese person sits and shoves food down their throat in wanton abandon. It's not like they are sitting at a bar drinking themselves into a stupor, or hacking their possessions to buy a fix from a dealer on a dark corner... they are living their lives as best they can, doing what they have done all their lives.

Putting a blanket statement out to cover each and every fat person is the exact same as stereotyping an ethnic group as lazy or nasty. I can tell you of some fat people who are completely disgusting, shoving anything and everything down their gullets, but I can show you some who are fat because of many interrelated circumstances both of themselves and without.

Until you, or anyone else who wants to point and condemn, has walked in the shoes of the obese, my shoes, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

 

The problem is that somehow we've decided that the answer to society's problems is more and bigger government. The government cannot make people healthier, happier, richer, more educated, less racist or more moral. Only God can fix what is wrong with the human race and until we turn to Him for the answers, society will continue it's downward spiral into total ungodliness and we will have nothing to look forward to except God's judgment.

 

So, is the concenses that fat people should pay more, or that they shouldn't?

The cure for obesity is simple: Eat less, move more. That doesn't mean it's easy, but the answer is simple.

 

I vote yes.

 

Hello,

I am being sincere in my apology. I really don't mean to be rude. This happens all the time in my life and I just say what is on my mind without much empathy. I have Asperger Syndrome and my communication skills are not like the general population.

I will try better in the future to avoid such things, but honestly I am sure to offend further. I just wanted to join this board so I can talk with others.

Sorry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome

 

Hello,

English is my first language.

 

I am familiar with Asperger's, as one of the mods on the forum I help run has it, as did a former mod. That does explain a few things.

My post wasn't an attack leveled at you or anyone else. It was an attempt for people to se that obesity is not simply from sitting on the couch wolfing down Oreos and ice cream while you watch Oprah and Ellen. There are many factors that can contribute. Even so, each person is responsible for their own actions and the consequences of them... in this case, being overweight.

No one made me fat but me, no matter what my circumstances may be.

 

Trotter, this is, (as opposed to my usual stupid, idiotic, [I mean cod-brained] questions, I have to ask you this.
Uh...just the same as anyone that suffers from Tourrettes Syndrome doesn't write a letter filled with obscenities,......will a person who has Aspergers WRITE in a thread stupid stuff? Or does the disease transcend the internet?

 

Asperger's is very different from Tourrettes. Asperger's is a mild form of autism. Asperger's also affects the ability to socialize and communicate effectively. Some of the usual ways this may come out include the lack of tact, bluntness, rudeness, and biting comments.

That's not to say that Sakuras's posts fit all these criteria, but knowing about the Asperger's lets me better see what the intended message actually was and not just the words posted on the page.