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Should These United States Go To War With Myanmar?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Sep 26, 2007.

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  1. Dagwood

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    Are you saying we should emulate the French? :D
     
  2. Dagwood

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    Do you think Americans should expend their money, blood and tears to protect the world's citzens?
     
  3. KenH

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    Yes, Dagwood, apparently conservatives actually want these United States to be the world's policeman.

    A nation cannot be the world's policeman and maintain financial strength at the same time for very long. Conservatives used to understand this. I don't understand why they don't now.

    Today's conservatives apparently embrace the foreign policy of the liberal Democrat, Woodrow Wilson - and their version "making the world safe for democracy" is on steroids.

    I think that this will all end quite badly for these United States if we don't change course on January 20, 2009.
     
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  4. saturneptune

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    Did you even know where Myanmar was before it became a news story last week?

    There seems to be a pattern in all of these types of threads, that those who are anxious to send us into unending numbers of wars, never served or sacrificed for this country most of the time.
     
  5. Martin

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    ==The United States Government and Military does not have, as one of its roles, the job of protecting citizens of other countries. Rather, its job is to protect and defend our country, our citizens, and our constitution. The idea that we should be the world's police is not based on our founding documents or fathers.
     
  6. Ivon Denosovich

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    KenH, once again you are a faithful chronicler of the conservative movement. It's amazing that the overwhelming majority of conservatives of yesteryear would now be labeled defeatists for their isolationism!
     
  7. Martin

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    ==These people are not true conservatives. They are big government liberals who happen to hold to some conservative beliefs (pro-life, etc). Sure they call themselves conservatives, and the media and popular culture call them conservatives, but they do not believe in many important conservative values (small government, etc). If a person believes that any form of big government is good, they are not conservative.
     
  8. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    This is where the justification lies: The military has the job, as an instrument of the government, of protecting our constitution, our country, our citizens, and our national interests.

    If the National Command Authorities, and/or Congress determine that utilizing the military is an option in order to protect our national interests, then they have legal right--and are legally (morally?) bound--to do so.

    The national strategy that has been implemented in the last 15 years is "pre-emptive" in nature. That is, if it's determined there is a threat to our country, our people, our national interests, or our constitution, the argument has been made that it is better to remove the threat before it's acted upon.

    Again, however, we will NOT go to war against or with Myanmar, or Burma, or whatever you want to call it. Just like with Haiti back in the 1990s, it's much more likely that we will partner with other governments and non-government organizations, and implement MOOTW.
     
  9. KenH

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    Burma: Thousands dead in massacre of the monks dumped in the jungle

    Burma: Thousands dead in massacre of the monks dumped in the jungle

    By MARCUS OSCARSSON -Last updated at 15:04pm on 1st October 2007

    Thousands of protesters are dead and the bodies of hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle, a former intelligence officer for Burma's ruling junta has revealed.

    The most senior official to defect so far, Hla Win, said: "Many more people have been killed in recent days than you've heard about. The bodies can be counted in several thousand."

    Mr Win, who spoke out as a Swedish diplomat predicted that the revolt has failed, said he fled when he was ordered to take part in a massacre of holy men. He has now reached the border with Thailand.

    - www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=484903
     
  10. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    One more example of unabated emotional tripe with no foundation.
     
  11. saturneptune

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    The same goes for you as the others. Sign on the dotted line for Uncle Sam and lead the charge. Stop wanting others to do it.
     
  12. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    We all have a say. Even those who (unlike myself) have never served. You want to silence those who you disagree with. Tough. Our service members are voluntary. You may not like this war but there are many more service members who are serving over there who disagree with you and have reenlisted to go back. I stand with them.
     
  13. Ivon Denosovich

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    Drug addictions are strictly voluntary also. Why I do I have this sinking gut feeling that you only care about volunteerism when it's in your favor?
     
  14. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Maybe you can back up and come up with an equal comparison so you will sound like you have some idea what you are saying.
     
  15. saturneptune

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    deleted on second thought
     
  16. Ivon Denosovich

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    Volunteerism=Volunteerism. Btw, it's not so much a comparison, as it is an overstatement of the obvious.
     
  17. Ivon Denosovich

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    For the third time, 2 Timothy 2:1-4:

    1) What should be the penalty for consentual homosexual behavior?

    2) Do you support bedroom cameras to enforce such laws?

    Please don't make me ask a fourth time. :rolleyes:
     
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  18. UnchartedSpirit

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    Nothing could make me sign, I'm staying here to draw and play piano.
    And no ones powerful enough to stop me either!
     
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