Should we believe in a young earth or our lying eyes?

Mainstream science, in this case, has realized that those variations in the axis of the Earth are due to a long-term precession.

That is why Stonehenge, for example, has astronomical settings that are no longer precisely accurate. The precession of the equinoxes moves the apparent position of the stars by about one degree every 72 years. This, not suprisingly, is just what is required to explain the inaccuracies of the monuments you mentioned.

 

A number of astronomers do not agree with you, Galatian. The Dodwell papers will finally be out in about three months. The publisher has them now. It will be interesting to see the reactions -- both of those who know astronomy and those who don't.

 

An impact the size of the vredefort would have darkened the skies and made the earth inhabitable for centuries.

This article involves the K/T impact and the damage it would have done. Keep in mind that the K/T (IIRC it's actually the 3rd largest meteor)is smaller than the Vredefort:

Taken from The K/T Boundary

Also a few other things:

Regarding Peleg and Babel, what was the evidence, I mean, I don't see any evidence of a massive earth changing event in the relevant bible verses. Also what about the other major meteor blasts?

 

Meatros:

There are evolutionists who are geologists and
creationists who are geologists. I'm being
specific.

 

The thing is you are applying motive towards a group of people who aren't all secularist. I think I know what you are getting at, but I am trying to prevent you from painting a group of varying individuals with a broad brush stroke.

 

Precession is visible in other plantes in our own system, as well as other extrasolar bodies. It's a normal, predictable, and expected part of planetary rotation.

BTW - for the lay persons:
Precession: The gyration of the earth's axis around the pole of the ecliptic (similar to the wobble of a spinning top) caused mainly by the gravitational pull of the sun, moon, and other planets on the earth's equatorial bulge.

 

(Barbarian notes that precession of the equinoxes precisely predicts the inaccuracies seen in ancient monuments)

Can't be very many of them. The precession is precisely measured, and has been observed since ancient times. No sudden movements, just a gradual change.

 

OH, Galatian,

So you're a uniformatarianist.

 

I think you mean "uniformitarian". It does not mean "gradualist".

Which I'm not. The precession of the equinonxes is gradual,(after all, it's been measured for thousands of years) but there are other processes that are discontinuous as well.

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