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Should women vote?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Marcia, Feb 4, 2010.

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  1. donnA

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    ownership of human beings is illegal. women are not possisions, of anyone. anyman who thinks he "owns" his wife and children is one sick puppy.
     
  2. rbell

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    Agreed. Paul Wassona is lying...and we know it.

    This has nothing to do with "securing her ladyship." This is all about his pride, and his need to "show off" his "biblical authority."

    When one uses God's word to acheive an end that is unseemly, I think that rightly fits the definition of "taking the name of the Lord in vain."
     
  3. tinytim

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    OH I'M SORRY rbell!! I didn't mean to slander SBC.. for some reason I thought Paul was SBC... that, and the fact that when most people here "Baptist" they think SBC.. because SBC is the biggest flavor of Baptists...

    I reread my post, and I ABSOLUTELY have NOTHING against SBCers...

    I just thought Paul was.
    I think Aaron is independent... in a lot of things!
     
  4. rbell

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    Thanks for the clarification. :thumbs:

    Oh, and I just dug up W.A. Criswell and got his permission: We just did a new Baptist Faith and Message (known heretofore as the "BF&M 2010.") It specifically excludes Paul, until he straightens up and flies right.
     
  5. Mexdeaf

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    Wouldn't they be offended if not called upon?
     
  7. Aaron

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    Why?




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  8. Aaron

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    Sez who?:confused:
     
  9. Scarlett O.

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    Choke! Spew!

    Alright, Aaron, who is going to help me clean the Sprite off of my monitor before my 6th grade class comes back from lunch.

    Seriously...........I've said the same thing myself! :tongue3:
     
  10. Aaron

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    I'm going to cut to the chase . . .

    The only reason women should not serve in combat or that they should be preferred in rescue operations is because of the place in society that God created them to occupy.

    I'm going to repeat my post of 1/31 in the other thread, this time including the Scriptural references for those less versed than I . . .
    The head of every woman is the man. (1 Cor. 11:3) The benefits of that headship is her cover and protection, and not merely her physical and legal protection, but her spiritual protection as well.

    The reason for that headship is God's created order. Man was created first, and woman was created from the man and for the man. (1 Tim. 2:12, 1 Cor. 11:8 - 10)

    The benevolence that the man is commanded to render unto the woman is as unto the weaker vessel. (1 Pet. 3:7) These principles are universal and non-optional.

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1511139#post1511139
    These principles are not for observance in the church only, it is how society should be run. Women simply are not to rule. To vote is to rule.
     
  11. rbell

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    Sorry, but this is where you pluck Scripture from its context.

    You may wish it, but your desires and Scriptural context are not one and the same.
     
  12. Aaron

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    If it were an ordinance like baptism, I would agree with you, but it isn't. The reason women are banned from ruling in the church is because they were not created to rule in the earth.
     
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    I hope that scripture and logic that was stretched does not snap back too hard and hurt someone.
     
  14. Martin

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    ==Scripture never says that (bold). Scripture does forbid women to be pastors (etc) but it never forbids women to hold secular government offices. In fact, the issue is never directly addressed probably because very few if any women held any office in the first century (ie...it was not an issue).

    As for yourproof texts, 1 Cor. 11:3 is talking to Christians. After all, Christ is not the head of lost men in the way Paul is speaking. Paul is talking to Christian men inside the Christian church. This has nothing to do with secular high office outside of the church. 1 Cor. 11:8-10 is in the same context as 11:3. The same is true in 1 Tim. 2:12 where Paul is clearly speaking of Christians in the local church. You must pay careful attention to the context of a verse of Scripture. Otherwise you can use the Bible to come to some very unBiblical conclusions.
     
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    That simply isn't in the Scriptures. Besides, there are female leaders in the book of Judges. Aaron, you are simply pulling things out of nowhere to support your own desires. What does your wife (if you have one) think about this, or do you allow her to think?
     
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    I just pointed it out to you.

    That's an arbitrary assumption on your part. However, it was an issue in the Corinthian church, and Paul corrected it.

    Yes, Christ is the head of the man. The man may be disobedient to his head for which he will be destroyed, but Christ is the head of the man—every man.

    The principles he used to support gender roles in the church is Creation, and the roles for which men and women were created. It's no more exclusively for the Christian any more than marriage and monogamy.
     
  17. rbell

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    Wow...well, at least Aaron is teachable... :rolleyes:
     
  18. Aaron

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    I just showed it to you.

    There are always exceptions to the rules.

    You can't just keep it about the Scriptures, can you.
     
  19. Aaron

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    I'm through now. I've presented the straightfoward, explicit Scriptures on the subject. You all can do what you want with them.
     
  20. tinytim

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    Wow.. what a great presentation..

    Think you your majesty for your fine example of... of....

    Hmmmm....

    Well.. it was something!!!, wasn't if folks??!!
     
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