Should your Senator support this bill

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Salty, May 10, 2007.

  1. Salty

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    I haven't given it much thought, but at first glance I would say no. I don't want a bill stating that is should be the nations language, and I don't want a bill to require companies and government to supply any other language.

    Why do we need a bill to require either? The government and any other company can decide in what language their documents are pubished in.

    While I hate the teleprompters that say for english press 1 for Spanish press 2... etc. I understand why a company does it. they want the people's business and will work to get it.

    Why spend a bunch of money to go either way?

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    Jamie,
    This bill would not require private companies to go English only. This would only be for goverment actions.

    Could you imange going in to vote and there are 10 lanauges on the ballott?
    Just take a look at Canada. Everything is required to be in English and French.
     
  5. Ralph III

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    ABSOLUTELY!

    In addition, the notion English is not or should not be the official language of America is rediculous, as it is the language taught to every American school child. In hopes of teaching them to speak it well, with the one exception of ebonics! Which teaches no standard as nor does it teach them how to land a job which will earn them a good living.

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    In Oklahome there are like 42 languages (in addition to English) that
    would have to be on a state level ballot
    from Native American (formerly: American Indian) languages
    alone. So we do the ballots in English. Each precinct has
    to have translators for languages of the precinct's voters.
     
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    Yes, but GWB would veto it.
     
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    I understood the bill, but I stand by my statement. We don't need a bill to state the obivous(sp) especially at a price of:

    The Office of Management and Budget recently estimated that the cost of implementing E.O. 13166 alone is $1-2 billion ANNUALLY.

    If the states want to add languages on their ballots, then let them as long as the people aprove it (ie they vote in the characters that elect to do such things)

    My orginal question stands. Why do we need a bill either way? Can't we spend our money more wisely?

    How about we spend that 1-2 billion dollars annually keeping the people that can't speak english out by shoring up our borders?

    Jamie

     
  9. Salty

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    Exactly why would it cost 1 billion to implement the law. Simply send a memo out to all FEDERAL govt offices. That would NOT be an extra cost as memos are routinely sent out anyways.

    Second, a lot of money will be saved by NOT having to print govt rules, regualtions, ect in scores of lanuages!

    Salty

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    You know Jamie, you are right, I think we should allow all lanugages to be govt sponsored, and while we are at it, lets accept all their currency. So the next time you go to the store, dont be suprised when you get some change, it may include pesos, euros, won, ...​
     
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    Why would it cost that much? Because it's the government doing it. :) Can you name one program where it was implimented(sp) and the cost run UNDER budjet??

    Also, memos are just that.. They are not a way of enacting and enforcing laws. You might be able to get this done this way in a small town or city government, but if you honestly think it can be done nationally, then think again.

    It just don't happen.

    We agree with this point, but that decision should be made on a statewide level. And if the people don't like it, call their state rep and explain to them what your vote means. Adding another layer to the US government isn't the answer.


    Go back and re-read my posts. I stated I didn't see a reason to add either bill. Why print anything in another language other than english and why print anything other than english. It really should be changed and done on a state by state level. You don't want "govt sponsored" languages and yet you want this to pass?

    I say... Let the government stay out of it and let the states, counties and cities decide if it's needed and let them pay for it. If I remeber right, you will be or have run for an office in your town. Pass that law in your town and see if it can be done without ANY money changing hands.

    Why should we spend 1-2 billion (with a B) dollars for this? If there were a "magic" way to send a memo and it wouldn't cost anything, then I would agree with you. But government doesn't work that way and you know it, so let's stop talking in a make believe world and discuss this in a real world prespectative.

    As far as their money.... That's another thread, this one is about language and how much will it cost.

    Jamie
     
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    Look at Canada

    Look at the cost of the language mess and political mess in Canada.
     

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