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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by SolaSaint, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    I think you're right about everything you said here except for you being right.

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    One thing, though: PXs are also subsidized. In fact, two years ago both commissary and base exchange subsidies were almost forfeited in a stupid Senate fight two years ago over compensation for families and military men who drank polluted drinking water at Camp LeJeune. There was a rider attached that would have eliminated base exchange and commissary discounts.

    • Military families currently save an average of 31% by shopping in the Commissary.
    • Military families save an average of over 20% by shopping in the Exchanges.
    • The commissaries and exchanges pay $800 million to more than 50,000 military family members employed by them.
    • Exchanges generate $300 million in dividends which are used to support Morale, Welfare and Recreation (MWR) programs for service members and military families.
    • For the $1.5 billion spent annually, commissaries and exchanges generate $5.6 billion in savings.
     
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    I heard that on a CSPAN by a Republican Congressman last night. I did look up OPM.gov and it appears you are correct for federal retirees.
     
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    If there is one good thing that comes out of this would be for the American people to realize there is no difference between the Democrats and Republicans. The politicians have been creating a false divide for years to make citizens think they have a choice.

    It works on this board, Republican and Democrat apologists are a dime a dozen.
     
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    If we adjust for inflation they aren't worth that much. All they know how to do is repeat scripted talking points to defend the "honor" of their chosen camp of traitors to the constitution by blaming everything on the other camp of traitors to the constitution. In the meantime we're losing all our soverignty and liberties.

    They love the whole dog and pony show of the globalist's divide and conquer strategy more than their own families and nation. They are little more than useful idiots in the service of the NWO.
     
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  6. saturneptune

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    I watched the Senate debate as the hours to the shutdown got nearer. The "leaders" of the Senate, Reid and McConnell, sounded like a couple of three year olds shouting back and forth, "Its my candy," "no its mine." Kentucky will eliminate half of that problem next year.
     
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    You're not watching the same Mitch McConnell I'm watching, apparently. He is the one who offered the CR that the Democrats refused to even debate. He and his fellow Kentuckian, Rand Paul, are continuing to offer compromise after compromise, as are other Republicans, and the Democrats are beginning to sound like an old LP, stuck on a scratch ... "no compromise ... no compromise ... no compromise ... " It's getting old, and I don't think they realize how badly this attitude is going to come back and bit them on the butt cheeks, sooner rather than later, though later too.

    McConnell lose his seat? As the British say, "Naut bloodeh lahkley." <-- Really bad accent
     
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    I hope y'all do.
     
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    If you cannot see the gap between Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell, I do not know what to tell you. When Rand Paul ran for Senator, Mitch baby supported his opponent in the primary. In the general election, Mitch gave Rand Paul lip service. Rand Paul was elected with 58% of the vote.

    Now, understand I have voted for Mitch McConnell every election since 1984 when he was first elected. Mitch McConnell is an establishment politician. He is also a RINO. He has compromised with the Democrats time after time. In addition, he sided with the Democrat leadership in the Senate several times against President Bush. In his reelection bids, some of the races have been squeakers. In the final analysis, Mitch McConnell is a typical politician, a big spender, and a liberal to moderate in his political beliefs. There is a much bigger gap between Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell than Mitch McConnell and Harry Reid.

    Rand Paul believes governing by the Constitution and serving the American people, two qualities lacking in Mitch. I am not defending Harry Reid or President Obama, but they are Democrats and what do you expect. I expect a Senator elected by the people of Kentucky to reflect the values of Rand Paul or someone like him.

    This is also another aspect of this whole thing. These Senators and Congressmen were sent to Washington to do a job, a job which transcends political ideology. It is to govern. It was their job to do whatever necessary to avoid shutting down the government. It was their job several years ago to pass budgets and appropriation bills on time so this never happens. The time for left-right debate was months ago. At midnight the other night, the opportunities for debate were over, and it was their job to keep the nation governable. In the case of Mitch McConnell, he is suppose to be a leader. He failed and failed miserably. I do not gamble, but if I did, I would take you up on that bet about his chances next year. He has strong opposition in the primary.
     
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    I think this all plays into Obama's hands. Now is the time for him to abolish the Constitution, do away with all three branches of government and declare himself supreme leader of the USA. Oops, forgot he's already doing that.....:BangHead:
     
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    Hmmm ...



    Wonder what that's all about, then.

    It's politics, or course. One would think Paul would be reluctant to side with his "enemy" had McConnell actually treated him so badly in 2010. However, since it is politics, that battle "never really happened." Seems to me there's an old saying about politics and bedfellows. Obviously, Paul isn't above making political deals himself.

    You guys want to make Rand Paul the darling of the conservatives, and the flag-bearer for the GOP? Good luck with that. He isn't any different than any of the others. I'm not supporting any current GOP leader or player for president right now, though I will if one of them becomes the nominee. But that's a long way off from happening.

    This is my guy:

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    How much Federal funding do these games receive ?
     
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    Enough that the Great Pretender thought he'd rub it in a little by cancelling the games. In previous shutdowns, this was never even considered. He's playing games like a little child. A spoiled-brat child at that.
     
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    I see you don't respect the office of the President of the United States. What form of government would you rather have than democracy?
     
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    Democracy? That's two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. That's why the United States was founded as a constitutional republic.

    The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.
     
  16. Bro. Curtis

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    LOL

    News flash, we have a representative republic, not a democracy.
     
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    Just like his base.
     
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    Again this shows the sad state of our school system. We do not have a democracy in this country.
     
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    And for third time, it's a representative republic, not a democracy. Either way, we didn't elect a dictator. Unfortunately, we didn't elect a president, either. We elected a Great Pretender. I respect the office. I do not have to respect the man holding it, and as long as the clown-in-chief holds it, respect is the last thing he will get from me. It is said that respect is demanded, trust is earned. But they go hand-in-hand, and I trust him about as far as I can throw him, Biden, Reid and Pelosi tied up together in a bag.
     
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    So long has he pushes for the unfettered slaughter of unborn children he deserves no ones respect. And anyone who does is only telling on themselves.
     
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