Sin in the millenium

Hey there.

 

I'm generally amill, so I can't answer your question directly, but I think the reason you're getting so few replies is simply because *if* premill is true, scripture is completely silent on all the issues you are asking about. Any specific answers you get will be entirely speculation.

 

Generally, I think it assumed in premill thinking (regardless of being dispensational or historical) that the righteous mortals in the millennium undergo a resurrection (for the dead) and a change (for the living) at the same time as the "general resurrection" (Rev 20:12-15) after the millennium - basically the same process as the resurrection/rapture prior to the millennium.

 

There's some variance in premill thinking here, but generally premillers believe saints from the prior age(s) will be present, in "glorified" and mortal form (depending on dispensational or historical). In pretrib thinking, this means saints resurrected and raptured prior to the trib (and some pretribbers think there will also be a resurrection at the end of the trib of saints killed during the trib), plus mortal believers who survived until the start of the millennium. In historical (posttrib) thinking, all saints are glorified (resurrected/rapture) at Christ's return to establish the millennial kingdom. In both views, there is also variance as to where glorified saints will live during the millennium. Some think in Old Jerusalem with Christ on earth, some think in New Jerusalem with Christ above the earth, some think we'll be free to travel back and forth, etc.

Funny how no actual premillers are jumping into this conversation so far...

 

Pretty easy to answer actually. There are some people who are saved during the Tribulation and survive through the battle at the end of it. These people are in their natural bodies and procreate in natural ways. Their children, like every other child born of natural procreation are totally depraved sinners. They will sin. There is, at the same time, saints in glorified bodies who will not sin, since we will be raised up to rule with Christ in the Millennium.

 

I am not sure what a "normal human life span" will be in that time. I think it will be considerably longer than it is now because of the restored nature of creation. The resurrected will live forever because there is only one death and they already died it.

 

Hello Peter,
Me and my wife were thinking about the millenium tonight as we shop at wal-mart. I was wondering, I believe there will be a millenium after Jesus's return, what will we be doing for 1000 years, what kind of work will we be doing, will we still be married to our spouses, be with our children, etc. Since Satan is bound for 1000 years, how is he going to recruit his army to strike back at the end of 1000 years? Will people be stupid enough to join in? What happens to unbelievers who live through the 7 year tribulation, since they will get eternal bodies as well, will they still be on the earth during the 1000 years?
If this planet gets wasted during the tribulation would we do damage control and clean up the planet's mess?

I do know we will spend time in worshipping the Lord in singing, this will be the ultimate worship service. Seeing the Lord face to face and worshipping Him without the flesh and sin and distractions to get into our way.

MA

 

Okay... (sitting back and popping my knuckles).

Pete, one reason why some people disagree on this issue is trying to discern which passage is addressing the millenium and which is addressing the kingdom. Amills have it easy. They just plug their ears and shout - nah nah nah nah, I can't hear you - when addressing kingdom passages.

Anyway, the church will have already been resurrected. The remaining believers of the O.T. and the tribulation will be resurrected when Christ returns. The only ones to enter the millenium will be those believers who survived the tribulation. Note: many of those believers will be Jewish simply because the ethnic Jews don't repent until the end of the tribulation.

Anyway, it is my belief (based on the prophets) that only unbelievers will actually die during this time. I can't think of the passage, but it addresses some who die at over a hundred years and that is young - something like that.

Anyway, those who entered the millenium will still sin. They will procreate and those offspring will have the adamic nature.

Anyway, sin will not flourish like it does today. Christ will be ruling with his rod of iron (not the wiffle bat - you know the red one with a fat end? - that the amills and postmills and preterists believe in). The hearts of men still need to repent and embrace the savior.

Anyway, I think I might have said anyway way too much this post.

Anyway, I did enjoy watching Florida State pound Maryland.

Anyway, they are going to rename Lincoln Financial to Raymond James North come Monday.

Anyway, have you seen the Braves this year? They are great.

Anyway, I am typing late at night.

Anyway, I am wearing a watch.

Anyway, my car is silver.

Anyway, zzzzzzzzzzz.

 

During the millenium, Satan will be bound. His role as tempter will be gone. But people who enter the mill and those who are born during it, will still have natures affected by sin, though, because of the reign of Christ, they will be more constrained to express sin than now. At the end of the mill, when Satan is loosed, it will be shown that even a righteous environment lasting a 1000 years did not exterminate sin.

Don't you wish the Bible had more info on this "good stuff?"

Rufus

 

Isaiah 65:20 "...The child shall die an hundred years old, but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed."

 

1 Cor. 15:51-54 telling us, ALL Christians shall be change into immortal body at the second advent. There shall be NO mortal person to enter eternality kingdom on new earth after the the second advent. Because all goats shall be cast away into everlasting fire - Matt 13:39-42; and Matt 25:31-33 & 46.

So, there shall be NO sin on new earth after the second advent. Because Christ shall destroy the wicked things at the second advent, and will send all sinners go to everlasting fire.

That's simple!

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

 

I realize I'm not welcome here (being an apostate amiller), but I see a problem with the belief that Christ will rule with a rod of iron (according to Psalm 2) meaning that no one will be able to resist His rule, and then having the millenium end in massive rebellion against His rule. You have to resist for a while before you can start up a war, don't you?--Or is it an instantaneous rebellion?

Anyway, you premiller's go back to fighting among yourselves and dismiss our amil arguments as "nonliteral"--I'm pretty used to that by now.

Tim