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Sins and the Judgement Seat of Christ

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by steaver, Jun 2, 2013.

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  1. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member
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    Heard Ron Hutchcraft giving one of his little "a word with you" speeches on the radio last week. He was telling us how God is going to expose each one's sins before everyone for all to see at our judgment day. I don't recall the scripture he cited, but I do recall he did not expound much at all with scripture.

    I believe the scriptures teach our sins are cast away and remembered no more, but he says they will be seen by all.

    What do you all think?
     
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  2. The Biblicist

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    The real problem for those who deny eternal security is that in the resurrection glorification of the righteous occur BEFORE they stand before the Lord hence proving that the following judgment has NOTHING to do with justifying their fitness or entrance into heaven but with rewards in heaven.

    Only with the wicked who are not raised in glorified bodies but with full ability to SUFFER in the body stand before the judgement not to see if they go to hell but to see how much suffering in hell their works demand.
     
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  3. Scarlett O.

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    Well, here’s how I see it and I confess now that I don’t know it all.


    Everybody will be judged in some respect or another …. including the angels. But will everyone undergo the same judgment?


    Paul says that Christians will undergo a judgment of our works, not sins. He says in 1 Corinthians 3 that we (Christians) have a foundation - and that's Jesus Christ.

    Then, we build upon that foundation. Build what? Works. Ephesians 2:10 says that God prepared works for us to do as Christians - after salvation. It says that we are God's handiwork - created in Christ Jesus. It also says that that these works were prepared for us to do "in advance". God has a job description for us - as a church collective and as individuals. This job description and works don't save us but are what we do because we are saved.


    Paul says that for the Christian, these works will be tested on that "that Day". Some Christians' works will refine beautifully under the fire of God's judgment like precious metals and others will burn like hay, stubble, and wood. But Paul is CLEAR to say that none of this has anything to do with their salvation, only their reward.


    I do not believe that Christians' sins will be exposed on that Day.


    If God were to expose all of our sins for ALL to see - as you say this man claims - then that would be judging us as to whether we are saved or not and THAT has already been settled.


    Also, NO ONE would pass the exposing of the sin judgment because it's our sin nature that condemns us in the first place and we would ALL be condemned to hell. The blood of Christ would be ignored and the gravity of our unforgiven sins would override the sacrifice of Christ and all of humanity would burn forever. The focus for Christians that Day will be our foundation on Jesus Christ and how well or not-so-well we accomplished what God prepared for us to do for His Name's sake.


    Judgment Day for Christians should be a day that we look forward to. Yes, it will be serious, holy, and we will, I'm sure, all be flat on our faces before God and Christ, whom God has made to be the Judge of that Day. (Someone help me with that Bible reference of Jesus being the Judge.)

    Showing and exposing all of our individual sins would be for naught. It's our nature that condemns us to hell in the first place - not how many times we looked at porn, how many lies we told, or how often we hated people.

    I know that some people teach/preach that on Judgment Day we will all sit back and watch the "big screen TV" and watch every single sin that every single person committed, but that's a lie.

    It's unnecessary for condemnation of unbelievers because their disbelief condemns them already and it's wrong on so many levels for the Christian because in Christ there is no condemnation.
     
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  4. BobRyan

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    I think the Baptist Confession of Faith gets this one right.

    Future Judgment - is in fact a life and death issue.

    C.H. Spurgeon does NOT limit this to just "how many toys do you get in heaven" - rather HE shows that the Bible is speaking of the SAME life or death issue for future judgment that we find in Romans 2.

    32. The Last Judgement
    1. God has appointed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness, by Jesus Christ, to Whom all power and judgement is given by the Father. In this day not only the apostate angels shall be judged, but also all people who have lived upon the earth. They shall appear before the tribunal of Christ to give an account of their thoughts, words, and deeds, and to receive according to what they have done when in the body, whether good or evil.
    2. The end of God's appointing this day is for the manifestation of the glory of His mercy in the eternal salvation of the elect, and also His justice, in the eternal damnation of the reprobate, who are wicked and disobedient. Then shall the righteous go into everlasting life and receive that fullness of joy and glory with everlasting reward in the presence of the Lord. But the wicked, who know not God and obey not the Gospel of Jesus Christ, shall be cast aside into everlasting torments, and punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power.
    3. As Christ would have us to be certainly persuaded that there will be a day of judgement, both to deter all men from sin and to give greater consolation to the godly in their adversity, so also He will have the date of that day kept unknown to men, that they may shake off all carnal security, and always be watchful, because they know not at what hour the Lord will come. Also, so that men may be affected in such a way that they ever say, 'Come Lord Jesus, come quickly!' Amen.

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    2Cor 5:10[FONT=&quot](NASB)10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

    2 Cor 5:10 (KJV)
    10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

    Rom 6:23 "the wages if SIN is death, the free gift of God is eternal life".

    [/FONT]Romans 11
    20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
    21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
    22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
    23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.



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    Romans 2

    4 Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?
    5 But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
    6 who will render to each person according to his deeds:
    7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life;
    ...
    13 for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified.
    ...
    16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.



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  5. The Biblicist

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    That article of faith does not say a word about what you are attempting to force it to say. Nowhere does it ever say that Judgement day is for determing heaven or hell but rather for determing rewards in heaven and hell.

    Romans 2 in context has nothing to do with the saved at all in any sense of the word but with those who believe that their own self-righteousness is sufficient to justify them before God on judgment day.
     
    #5 The Biblicist, Jun 3, 2013
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