Slide Guitar?

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  1. poncho

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    Is there anyone here that
    uses a slide to play guitar and if so would you share some insights? I've been playing guitar for a long time now and own a resophonic (resonator) I use for country, blues and bluegrass. My buddy and fellow guitarist just got a new new Gibson hound dog and we'd like to work in a few tunes with the slide.

    I'm not a stranger to alternate tunings so that isn't a problem and I have been using a thumbpick and fingers style for a good long while. I guess the slide would be a natural way to further my enjoyment of this wonderful instrument.

    Any help would be appreciated. [​IMG]
     
  2. D28guy

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    Hey there Poncho!

    I just happen to come upon this a few short minutes before I have to leave for work.

    I play dobro(and guitar) with a gospel bluegrass band, which of course is played with a slide.(its called a bar, but the identical principle)

    But even when I 1st started playing guitar years ago...before getting into the dobro...I got a myself slide and would sometimes play the guitar that way.(I would put it on my ring finger)

    Its a beatiful and very expressive style of playing.

    I play in open G tuning, both on the dobro and when I play slide on a guitar. Lots of people play in open E, but I've never tried that tuning.

    I'll post later tonight after work.

    God bless,

    Mike
     
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    Ponco,

    Those Gibson Hound dogs are good. I have 2 dobros, a Regal RD-45 that I "hotrodded" by putting a premium cone in it, and my primary dobro which is a Gold Tone Maple Deluxe Paul Beard signature model.

    Have you had a chance to play any of these new Gold Tone Beards?

    The are incredible resos.

    Mike
     
  4. Bro. Curtis

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    The Beard reso guitars are fantastic.


    Look up Jimmy Heffernan, he has several cheap video lessons available. I always use open G. And remember, the three strings in the middle, the D,G, & B are the same as a normal tuned guitar. My advice is learn to play a scale in all keys, without a capo. And also, bluegrass ain't rock & roll, so keep that third & seventh note major. Blue notes, (a minor third, and flattened sevenths) don't work in most old-timey tunes. And slide the bar across the strings, instead of lifting it off the neck, as this wastes time & movement.

    And try to keep it from sounding like a drawer full of silverware [​IMG]

    I'm proud of ya, man.
     
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    I've never heard of a Beard guitar I'll have to check them out. Can't wait to try my buddies Hound dog out. This weekend we'll be pickin together so maybe if I can pry it from his hands I can give you guys my impression of it.

    So open G would be a good tuning to start out with? That's good to know. Thanks guys. Up to this point I've had my resonator set up with an unwound G string to work in some bends. I am guessing this setup isn't the best for slide work.

    Good advice Bro Curtis. I can play some scales in all keys now. Jimmy Heffernan, I'll look him up tonght. Thanks. Now about set up. I've been using my resonator (make age unknown) mostly for pickin, strumin and shuffles so I set the action kind of low with medium strings but it's still quite high at the fifth fret. Basically I'm more of an electric guitar guy. I've noodled around with a slide on the resonator and found I can get a decent sound and damp the strings with out to much pressure or hitting the frets. I've been told heavy strings are the way to go with slide.

    My buddy Gary mostly strums the chords and I work in little bass riffs and fills. So what I'm looking to do I guess is to use a constant or alternate bassline and shuffles and some slide work the same way, instead of pickin the fills I'd like to slide em.

    Thanks everyone for the replies.
     
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    Poncho,

    Well, in bluegrass, Open G is pretty much the "standard" tuning. People like Jerry Douglas and Mike Aldgridge and others of their stature venture into all kinds of different tuning sometimes, but open G is by far the most common.

    It sounds like you are more into blues style slide playing...meaning holding it like a guitar and fretting sometimes along with using the slide. If so, "open E" is pretty common among blues players. Duane Allman played in open E the vast majority of the time when he played electric slide on all those great blues tunes they did. ("Statesboro Blues", "Trouble no More", etc.} You might give open E a few test drives.

    By the way, Jerry Douglas..(Dobro player with Alison Krauss and Union Station)..has a web-site with a discussion board on it. They call it the "Bullitin Board" there. Also, there is another good discussion forum web-site for dobro players called "Reso-Nation". Both of those sites can be a real wealth of information, with so many really devoted players posting.

    Here are the links...

    Jerry Douglas

    reso-nation

    I had a great time tonight. We shared a booking with several groups we know real well and had tons of "cross band sitting in" going on. Lots of good jamming!

    Grace and peace,

    Mike
     
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    "It sounds like you are more into blues style slide playing...meaning holding it like a guitar and fretting sometimes along with using the slide. If so, "open E" is pretty common among blues players. Duane Allman played in open E the vast majority of the time when he played electric slide on all those great blues tunes they did. ("Statesboro Blues", "Trouble no More", etc.} You might give open E a few test drives."

    Yeah that's is bottleneck slide, that's what I'm talking about. I will try open E thanks. I've read where Johnny Winter tunes to "high E" any idea of what that's all about? I haven't been able to find anything on it. Also, can I use Open E tuning while others are tuned standard, playing in the key of E?
     
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    Poncho,

    Nope...never heard of that.

    Oh yeah. In an open key you can hit all the major chords by just laying the bar(or slide) across the strings at a particular fret.

    In the various groups I play with the banjo player and I are both in open G, while the guitar players and bass players are in standard tuning.{I dont know what the tuning is for the mandolin or fiddle) :confused:

    Mike
     
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    G, D, A, E, from bottom to top.

    Also, poncho, if you are playing that bluesy, Johnny Winter stuff, forget what I said about the thirds & sevenths. Johnny Winter, & those guys live on the minor third & flattened sevenths.
     
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    Curtis,

    Did you hear about the scam that took place in the dobro community involving that phony web-site?

    Mike
     
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    I never expected to play like Johnny Winter. My fingers are getting a touch of arthritis. Some mornings after playing shuffles for a few hours the night before I have to soak my index finger in hot water to straighten it out. And I already have a bad habit of sluring the third. ;)

    Didn't get a chance to try out the Hound dog yet it was still in the shop getting set up. Maybe this weekend. I did modify my brass slide by chopping off half an inch making it the same length as my glass slide and alot lighter, so far the brass gets the nod.
     
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    A friend lost his Rayco dobro in that mess. I don't know what possessed him to send his instrument, in the mail, to someone he never met. Acoustic instruments are expensive.
     

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