Smoking and Beer

I don't know if you miss JJ kingdom over that or not. I am sure there would be a meeting to decide.

 

NOW that is exactly what should be in the men's forum :laugh:

 

:thumbs: :applause:

 

Since you quoted that verse, how come on the BB, in a year and a half, I have yet to see a single long, drawn out thread on "envyings". And it is at the head of the list, of these things, but have seen a bunch on alcohol?? Anyone got an answer for this one?? Doesn't "envyings", i.e. "covetousness" reach at least the same level as drinking?

Last time I checked, 'to covet' was one of the "Big Ten" 'Thou shalt nots'! But somehow I do not recall anything in the Ten Commandments about alcohol.

Did I somehow miss it??

Ed

 

Ed Sutton:

You missed it because you were too busy



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Charles, I think that would make for a good thread. I was kidding Ed, of course, but he's right. I have never seen a discussion about covetousness either. And I think all kinds of other sins can spring up from coveting.

 

I thank God.

 

I don't drink anymore. Well, very rarely, anyway.

It's a matter of liberty. I have the liberty in Christ to drink alcohol in moderation, but my liberty ends where somebody else's potential stumbling block begins.

Because of my position in our church, I realize that I'm held to a different standard than I was before and I have a greater chance of being that stumbling block that causes a weaker brother to fall.

Much as I love my Yeungleung, it's not worth hurting a brother or sister in Christ so I gave it up. Of course, as little as I drank anyway, it wasn't that much of a sacrifice.

In all fairness, I did have four beers a couple of weeks ago at a concert (it was over the course of an entire day).

Those four beers were probably as much as I've had in the previous two years.

 

I understand your position even though I do not agree, it certainly makes sense. One question though, if you do not drink while teaching Sunday School for the sake of the students, don't you think to be totally honest they have the right to know how you feel about the situation, otherwise, it seems there is something to hide.

 

I lost all interest in alchoholic beverages when I was born again. *Just like that* I lost all interest. The reefer, acid and magic mushrooms and all of it. It just disappeared in one day.

I did however smoke cigarettes for a while after being born again. I even witnessed as a smoker. Sometimes smoking as I witnessed. Effectively. People seemed to have "ears to hear" and were impacted.

But in time the cigarettes disappeared as well. Without any kind of "nicotine withdrawl" fits, either. (Praise God!)

But I dont make a big stink out of christians who smoke cigarettes or drink a beer or something like that in moderation, mainly because I would be going beyond scripture to do so. The scripture speaks strongly about drunkeness, not the occasional beer or smoking cigs.

We all know that Christ turned water into wine...not grape juice...for the wedding. Smoking is bad for your health, but so is all the high cholesteral fried chicken, and deserts at the typical church fellowship suppers.

But I'll tell anyone that God can give you victory over cigarettes if you'll let Him. And he can make a Canada Dry Ginger Ale taste better than any beer!

Mike

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

AmyG's post #86 gave me a great laugh!!!

One of the best I've had for a while on these boards!

Blessings,

Mike

 

Don't your neighbor, here, that gave her the opportunity get any credit for the humorous posts?? :laugh: :laugh:

Sorry, I had to delete two of your "laughs" to get two of my own to 'post'!

Ed

 

We also need one on uncleaness, too. How many time a week are we supposed to shower? Do you use hand sanitizer on a daily basis? Don't you even DARE not wash your hands after using a public restroom! The lightning bolts will come-a-flyin!

 

Drinking does seem to get an undue amount of attention.

I've got to tell you the thing I see being misused more than most is that old loving your neighbor as yourself . . . AND yet, we rarely see it addressed.

 

Drunkeness has no taste.

Drunkeness is good for you?

I knew it! All those years as a child my mom tried to make me eat all of those nasty vegetables telling me they were good for me! Ha!

Hey now...my mom may have had a mean side, but them are fightin words!

...but you just said the ONLY thing good for you is God! Do I have to call mom to apologize?

...then you would be disagreeing with many nutritionists and scientists.

 

"What's that red stain on your shirt? Have you been drinking WINE!?!?!"

"No no no!! It's only blood, honest!!"

 

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Ed