snake handlers.... and worship

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  1. tinytim

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    I posted this link in the "selling sermons" thread, but I want to see what you all think about the ones that does this....

    Has anyone been to a church like this...

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=vMP-CQ_bvSM


    ***Beware of the comment section... don't read! bad language. Just watch the video.. it is ok.
     
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    Sorry, Tim!!! Survivalability rates of poisonous snakes within my eyesight is "nill"---------- poisonous snakes need to realize that there is a huge risk factor in being discovered---they need to understand that the Lord could very will "call them home" and this could be their very last day on earth and that if they have loved ones that they will leave behind--they need to understand that Social Security will only go so far in helping their survivers survive around me if I discover them also!! And that when I sing the song, "Brethren, we have met to worship"---there is an exclusion factored in that includes said venomous reptiles!!!

    :laugh:
     
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    I agree with you!! I hate snakes... even the nonvenoms...
    I showed this to Brother Bob earlier, and he told me that I needed a pair of red pants like that one man was wearing...
     
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    A few years back, they busted a snake handling' preacher for running 'shine. He had defanged all the snakes, and had created a hiding place under their pit to hide the 'shine.

    When I was a kid, there was this man who said he was travelling in the mountains and visited a church. When they brought out the snakes, he asked, "Where's the back door?"

    "We don't have one."

    "Where would you like one?"

    Although snakes, even poisonous ones, don't bother me, they have no place in worship. Except when I have to keep my pet snake "Monty" in my shirt to keep him from freezing when I'm in church...

    Which reminds me of an amusing story. A friend ot mine has a pet albino python that is rather large. He needed to take the snake to the vet, and it was about 10 degrees outside. So, he warmed up his '73 Montey Carlo with dark tinted windows, and when it was toasty, he put his snake in his shirt, got in the car, and drove off.

    Somewhere down the road, the snake came out his sleeve and wrapped his head around the steering wheel. Lamar started struggling, and the car weaved all over the road, a cop saw it, and pulled him over.

    The cop walked up to the window, Lamar, using the electric switch rolled down the window (which was a very dark tint), the cop saw his eyes looking up at him, and as the window lowered, saw him struggling with a snake wrapped around the steering wheel.

    "I don't even want to know", the large, black cop said, using an expletive, walked back to his car, got in, and drove off.

    Oh, the snake got better and is still alive today.
     
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    I always thought that the focus of our worship was to be Jesus Christ not snakes. Snakes are often used to represent something quite different than Jesus. Those folks were mesmerized. One of the men reminded me of a great example of what is called "ministerial tone. An example is when every sentence ends the last word . . . . uh.

    The music reminded me of music of the Rock n Roll era. It was quite the music for KJVO folks.

    People have died from snake bites who believed in their theology. I wonder what the difference is between them and the snake charmers in India?

    I wonder how those snake charmers would survive in Alaska? They would have to import some snakes.
     
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    It's also hard to find mice, rats, and other suitable food. That's why my son's snake died.
     
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    :tonofbricks: :tonofbricks: I have heard of this and think it is weird.
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    I've heard about congregations like this all of my life and I watched a documentary on them a couple of times.

    It's a gross misinterpretation of scripture and a classic case of taking a verse from the bible and making a totalitarian doctrine out of it. It's also a classic case of making evidence and/or requirements of salvation where there is none.

    Very bad goings on......very bad.

    Mark 16:17-18 = (Jesus speaking)
    "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast our devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, It shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
     
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    Whenever I hear/read of snakehandling I'm reminded by what one brother said-that there is more scriptural evidence in the New Testament for snake handling than there is for the office of pastor.

    Check your concordances...:laugh: :thumbs:
     
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    Tim, if you get the red drawers will the dancin' happen too?

    hehe
     
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    I couldn't dance my way out of a paper poke! All you in southern appalachia know what a poke is, right?

    I laughed when he accidentally slapped the woman when he was spinning...
    As I understand it, this church has closed it's doors...

    People died off....
     
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    Weeeelllllllll,

    That's a surprise :laugh:
     
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    You and he happen to be right on this, as there is absolutely zilch evidence for pastor being an office!

    Get it, gang!

    Pastor and teacher (or pastor/teacher) is a spiritual gift, and never spoken of in Scripture as an office.

    Ed
     
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    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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    I once Pastore a church in Harrison, Tennessee. While there we had a farm on Dolly Pond Road in Brichwood. We lived directly across the road from the original Dolly Pond Church where many historians say the "Religion" gained ground.

    I can remember many nights sitting on our front porch watching around 35 people run in and out of the little shack shouting and speaking in "tongues."

    Many would be "slain" in the "spirit" for a long time. By the way, laying on the ground, flopping like a fish, and foaming at the mouth isn't the "spirit."
    Where we come from we call that "RABIES" and we shoot anything that acts like that!!!!:laugh: :laugh:

    Anyway, they met about once a month to handle snakes and drink stricnine poison.

    I can remember one of the news medias in Chattanooga interviewing the person in charge at a service. They had the poison checked at the lab and it indeed was poison!

    Anyway, to my knowledge they still meet there a few times each year and pass them around!
     
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    Strychnine? That's interesting. It's a poisonous alkaloid that is used to kill small rodents, but it's also used as a nervous system stimulant.

    It causes muscular convulsions and you eventually die from asphyxia or simply from exhaustion. If you take enough of it, that is.

    It's from a Greek word that means "deadly nightshade". (I used to grow a poison garden, that was full of poisonous plants that were absolutely beautiful. They grow wild almost everywhere, as far as I know.)

    A few minutes after exposure, the muscles start convulsing, beginning with the head and neck, then to the rest of the body, with nearly continuous convulsions, that get worse at the slightest stimulus. The convulsions continue until the spine arches continuously, and asphyxiation results from paralysis of the nerves that control breathing, unless you die from exhaustion first. Death usually comes 2 or 3 hours after ingestion, and instantaneous rigor mortis sets in, even if in the middle of a convulsion.

    There's no antidote, but there is treatment.

    In small doses, it was once used as a stimulant and a laxative.

    There is an urban legend that strychnine is added to LSD, but the LSD dose is so small that the strychnine would be unnoticeable. However, it is used in recreational drugs. Keith Richards, guitarist of the Rolling Stones, claims that his worst experience with drugs was when someone put strychnine in his dope. "It was in Switzerland. I was totally comatose but I was totally awake. I could listen to everyone, and they were like, 'He's dead, he's dead!', waving their fingers and pushing me about, and I was thinking, 'I'm not dead!'," he recalled.

    Sounds a lot like many pentecostal experiences, eh?

    More trivia: In 1904, a runner took a brandy and strychnine cocktail that helped him win the marathon, but he collapsed afterward and it took hours to revive him.

    I think we may be onto some "religious" discoveries here.
     
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    This kind of religion is, to say the least, weird.
    I've seen some of the documentaries, and having been bit by a cobra once, don't care much about observing such kind of a "church".
    Snakes don't bother me, though, despite having been bit.
    One got into my left wheel well once in Maryland, and our 100 year old pastor, then about 97, calmly picked it up by the tail and walked it right back to the trees behind the church cemetery.
     
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    Years ago when I bicycle raced some of the riders took arsenic because they knew it helped them. The first time I heard that I was shocked and did not want any part of that but I knew it was being done.
     
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    helped them do what? just curious what they were thinking.
     
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    Was arsenic the original 'doping' before stereoids and synthetic hormones came along? {derail Smiley} :laugh:

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