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Discussion in 'News / Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Nov 4, 2015.
It's too bad, snopes is a decent resource for quickly checking the veracity of all of the spam and chain emails, but they definitely have a liberal bent.
I'm curious--how does fact checking have a liberal bent?
It doesn't. Biggrin You know the drill. The liberals say it has a right wing bent. The right wingers say it has a liberal bent.
The liberals say the media is right winged. The right wingers say the media is liberally left. And on and on and on when they are really two sides of the same coin.
Here's one example. They admit that the quotes are true, but still give it a partial rating. And go pretty in depth on their defence. Why?
I like snopes. Use it fairly often. But when it comes to politics and religion articles, their personal feelings shine through a bit.
I can't speak for Snopes but I suppose since going to war with Iraq was the #1 most controversial issue of the 2000's I presume they wanted to dig deep into it.
One thing about Snopes that might show a liberal bias is they seem to research far more right wing email screeds than they do left wing ones. That could be because there are far more right wing rants (in my experience anyway) than left wing ones. Of course that changes depending on which party is in power, and since Obama has been in office for almost seven years now, and because he's such a polarizing figure, of course there will be no end of right wing email rumors and innuendo.
I use it far too often. I'm a conservative but I don't fall into the shrill attack mode that many of my friends and family employ. I would say the years 2008-2011 or thereabouts I had Snopes bookmarked because of the crazy, false Obama-hating emails I would get. There is also hoax-slayer.com and urbanlegends.
Meh, I'm new and all, and I am politically conservative, but I value truth over partisanship.
You won't see me claiming that either MSNBC or Fox are free of bias. There aren't many places in media or on the internet where bias doesn't leak through.
Oh, you're right. As a conservative, with mostly conservative friends, in the last 8 years I use snopes more for pointing out those over the top attacks on Obama.
Well, that and every time I see a Facebook post claiming that every single term congressperson gets their full salary for life I want to scream.
Here's one of my first posts (THE first post?) to Baptist Board. This was my copy-and-paste email I'd send to people when they'd send me the latest terrible, gauche thing that Obama had done. (The last 10 or 12 items have been added to the list since I posted it here) I'm sure you recognize quite a few of them.:
Let's review, shall we?:
Obama doesn't put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem.
Obama doesn't wear a flag pin.
Obama didn't fly the American flag at the Port Au Prince airport after the earthquake.
Chinese flag to be hoisted at the White House on September 20, 2009.
Obama doesn't attend or address Tea Party rallies.
No one who attended Columbia in the early 1980's remembers Obama attending there.
Obama gave Britain's Prime Minister a set of classic American movie DVD's.
Obama removed a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval Office.
Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate is a fake.
Michelle Obama didn't visit Saudi Arabia with Barack Obama because of sharia law.
Michelle Obama had a $447.80 dinner at the Waldorf Astoria.
Obama's campaign jet had the image of the U.S. flag removed during a makeover.
Obama was a U.S. CIA spy and gunrunner in Pakistan in the early 1980's.
Obama provided funding for Hamas terrorists to immigrate to the U.S. from Gaza.
Michelle Obama has over 30 personal assistants at the White House; Laura Bush had only one..
While military leaders salute at Arlington Nat'l cemetery, Obama has hands clasped at waist.
Obama had a duplicate swearing in for President where he used the Quran.
Obama said his uncle helped liberate Auscwhiz.
Russian leaders refuse to shake Obama's hand at a diplomatic function.
Barack Obama puts his feet up on the desk in the Oval Office.
Obama’s White House asked Georgetown Univ. to remove Christian symbol.
Obama always uses a teleprompter, even when addressing kindergarten children.
Obama didn't visit Ft. Hood after the terrible shootings.
Michelle Obama served soup to a "poor" person who owned an iPhone.
Chrysler dealerships owned by Republican donors were targeted for closure by Obama.
Obama has directed the issuance of a U.S. postage stamp commemorating Islamic holidays.
Obama has decreed that Christmas trees be henceforth called Holiday trees.
Two Muslims hold important positions at the Dept. of Homeland Security.
Muslims held a prayer service at the U.S. Capitol--Obama didn't stop it from happening.
Obama does not sign Eagle Certificates for the Boy Scouts of America.
Obama didn’t speak at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day, instead he went to Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery outside Chicago.
Obama didn’t have American flags behind him at a press conference.
Obama read a book written by a Muslim titled “The Post American World.”
Nancy Pelosi procured a "fat cat" military plane rather than use a smaller plane previously used by Speaker of the House.
Pelosi gave cronies in the American Samoa tax breaks.
Pelosi could not answer a question about which voyage around the world was Captain Cook's last.
The USPS has designed another special Muslim stamp to honor their EID holiday.
Obama denied a request for a military flyover at an Idaho “God and Country” rally.
Obama wasn’t wearing his wedding ring or his watch during Ramadan. This proves he’s a Muslim.
Obama sends out form letters to families of deceased military personnel that is signed by an auto-signature machine.
Michelle Obama waved the communist flag on her trip to China in March 2014.
There are no photos of President Obama waving the flag.
When leaving the White House helicopter, Obama made a clumsy salute with a cup of coffee in his hand.
This is called losing focus and getting distracted. All this stuff is trivial crap. I have to believe that Pelosi, Reid, Obama, et al. are ecstatic that the right wing is getting bogged down in this when the real damage is that the Dems are running up our national debt at an alarming and unprecedented rate by creating more and more government programs and taxing us more and more. THIS IS THE REAL ISSUE! Don't get distracted by silly email hoaxes.
As to the OP, what's the big deal? The claim of the Facebook post was that Dorothy Bland, "Fabricated a story about two white police officers in an attempt to fuel the anti-police narrative".
I would classify that allegation as "mostly false", just like Snopes did. Read Bland's actual op-ed piece here:
Where did she say the two police officers were white? Where did she fabricate the story? Didn't two cops stop her for walking down the street? Yes, she interpreted the stop as a possible "Travon Martin" incident, this is an op-ed piece, after all, and not a news story.
The Facebook post ends with a fabricated quote by Bland, "Remember, I wouldn't have batted an eye if those two officers were fired because of my lie." Now that's flat out innuendo and hearsay. Very Rush-like.
First ITL you make inuendo's on this board all the time. I will be sure to point the next one out. Innuendo's are not always a bad thing as they can be used to express a personal point of view. Or they can be bad when they are just used to make someone look bad. Rush does the former.
Second, what facebook post?
Third, the op ed is irrelevant to the claims made in the op as it is about what was posted on snopes not Dallas News.
Why wait for the next one? Why not just search BB and find one? If I make them "all the time", surely I've made one in the past couple of weeks or so.
LOL--Rush uses innuendo like a drug addict uses crack.
The one circulating about Dorothy Brand. The one that caused Snopes to look into it. The one shown in your link.
The Facebook post photo meme of Dorothy Brand leads off with the statement, ""Fabricated a story about two white police officers in an attempt to fuel the anti-police narrative" which is what Snopes is attempting to debunk. Sheesh, get with it, Rev.
So that is all you got? I did not post a facebook link so......I have no idea what your talking about. I see you are in the mood to just argue for the sake of it. I will leave you to it.
I wouldn't trust anything those two say - they are NOT investigators, they are not trustworthy "fact-checkers" but what they are are two liberals that ripped off folk stories from a Utah college professor. They are awful:
A new global news fact checking project announced yesterday by the Poynter Institute.
THIS IS THE FACEBOOK POST THAT STARTED IT ALL, and is the subject of the Snopes article:
If you read the actual op-ed she wrote and read the police chief's response (both are contained in the article you linked to in your OP) you will see she DID NOT fabricate a story about two police officers stopping her and asking her for ID while she was walking down the street. That is exactly what happened. She did speculate in her op-ed that she was stopped because she was a black person walking in an affluent white neighborhood. The police said that she was stopped for obstructing traffic. If you look at the video (again, there is a link in the article in your OP) you can see that see's walking down the street next to the curb. That's all. That's the entire "crisis". Yet she was stopped and asked for ID.
Yeah, I can see by this picture that they are despicable, dangerous liars, bent on destroying conservatism. The cat is a dead giveaway. Biggrin
That cat needs to be put on a diet.
RevMitchell or 777, please point out what this woman lied about and also why the Snopes article is inaccurate.
I now trust NOTHING they say because of that cat.