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So just what is wrong with the KJB?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Precepts, Mar 5, 2004.

  1. Precepts

    Precepts New Member

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    So then are you then demanding the Word of God to meet modern understanding which is no more than misunderstanding the root meanings of the words and the definitions of what yall try to say are archaic?

    We've been living by every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God since 1611 and before, but now you are demanding we live by every word of men when they so choose to invent a new word. No Thanky! In Him no fault I find, because I'm not looking for any fault in Him Who is faultless, nor in His Word.
     
  2. mioque

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    "but those who promote mv's never "attack" other versions than the KJB?"
    I've seen several non-KJVO members of this board attack the NWT, the Message, the Jerusalem Bible and the Douay Reims.
     
  3. Jim Ward

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    But, who, besides the wtbts, approves of the nwt?

    The message is more mess then anything else and are not the other 2 the versions of the roman cult?

    Try to get an mv "defender" to "attack" the niv, or the nkjv, or the nasb/v or any of the others outside the 4 goofy ones you mentioned and you find very slim pickins.
     
  4. jshurley04

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    Precepts:
    I do not wish for the KJV to fall by the wayside, I only wish for the heresy that it corrects the original autographs and that any other version is from Satan, to be put to death so that we do not have this devisive nature among the brethren. I read, study and preach from the KJV for several reasons that are all rock solid, and if I see that the KJV itself is attacked I will defend because it is the BEST, TIME tested version in existence today. However, the language used is quickly becoming outdated and it is time that we begin to look at what the fore fathers of our movement used before this heresy was created. [​IMG]
     
  5. jshurley04

    jshurley04 New Member

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    I see both sides and understand that each has merit. As one who does advocate some of the modern versions allow me to say the following:

    1. NIV = Landfill at the Dump.
    2. NLT = Great for children and baby Christians just learning to study the Word. Not much else.
    3. NRSV = I question some of the phrasing.
    4. NASB = I question some of the phrasing.
    5. NKJV = Still in the evaluation process with me.

    I have not studied them all and some of the one I have studied I have problems with. I am still in the evaluation process and at this point the only other Bible I would consider using outside the KJV is the NKJV, but my personal evaluation process is not completed yet.
     
  6. Trotter

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    So just what is wrong with the KJB? Back to the topic, please.

    There is nothing fundamentally wrong with the KJV that is not also found in all other BV.

    Every translation is the work of men, albeit godly men (usually). These individuals take on the awesome task of trying to take what is preserved in one language and translate it into another language. This is a monumental task, since the languages of the bible (Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek) do not easily lend themselves to the English language.

    If I do have a problem with the KJV, it would have to be the archaic language. I mean, when was the last time "ye asketh what I wot"? "Thee" and "thou" are not used in today's language, nor are all the "-eths". The sentence structure is really clunky in places, due to the translators trying to hold true to the Greek constructions (like I said, Greek does not lend itself to English).

    The above is not an attack on the KJV. It is an answer to the question posed as the subject of this thread.

    I do not attack the KJV. I love the KJV, and I preach from it the majority of the time. But I do attack the man-made lie of the KJV being the only word of God in English. Nowhere does the bible tell us that the KJV is the only source of truth.

    God preserved His word for us, but it is preserved in languages other than English. We who do not read Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek must be content with a man-made translation of the preserved manuscripts that we have.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
  7. Pastor Larry

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    I am not demanding anything. I am suggesting that if the word of God is intended to communicate God's truth to us (and it is), then it should be in the langauge of the people to whom it is trying to communicate. Since the KJV was translated, the English langauge is vastly different. Sentence structure is different and some words have changed meaning. What is wrong with having the word of God in teh language that we speak?

    Who invented a new word? EVery single MV that I have seen is a translation of a very ancient word. It is not a creation.

    Secondly, they are translations of God's word, just as the KJV is. They are not man's word.

    Thirdly, I am suggesting that what was good enough for every other generation in church history should be good enough for us. We should have God's word in our own language.

    I can certainly agree with that.
     
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