I have been re-studying so-called "Calvinism" -- inasmuch as it is vigorously seeking a foothold all around me -- and I am very curious as to what it's proponents (or opponents) have to say of the very powerful Romans Ch. 1 and it's overwhelming implications on salvation, evangelism, & predestination. I will strive to be brief, not antagonistic. I truly desire Christian discourse in this matter. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Verse 1:20 being the key & fulcrum. Very creation screams out to the understanding of one & all of the invisible things of God (see Hebrews 11:1) -- EVEN His eternal power & Godhead -- God Himself has shown all men these things (v. 19). Men chose to ignore these facts (v. 21). So that they are now without excuse. They (we) are each & all accountable. God is now justified to send them (us) all to hell. Not one can say, "But I never heard of Jesus." God showed them His existence & His Godhead. God says this is sufficient grounds for them to be without excuse. Had they acted on this very sufficient light from God (think deepest, darkest, uncivilized jungle, etc.) -- God would have sent more evidence on which to believe until they did hear of Jesus the Christ (think missionary) -- and then believe unto salvation. This is "faith to faith" (V. 17). Bottom line: Man is absolutely depraved, slave to sin, etc., but NOT totally depraved. Man is capable of choosing God -- based on His revelation. God holds each accountable for their enlightened understanding -- and for their ensuing choices. TULIP appears to stand or fall together. T seems to have no legs.