Some Abortion Foes Shifting Focus From Ban to Reduction

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/17/AR2008111703682.html?hpid=topnews

    This makes so much sense. I have wondered for several years why the emphasis was not on encouraging alternatives to abortion ... taking care of the mother, adoption, etc.
     
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    IMO someone who supported/promoted/voted for Obama full well knowing his record on abortion really has a lot of nerve to start a thread about reducing the number of abortions.

    You already gave up the moral high ground on that issue.
     
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    That is because you missed my point earlier during the campaign. I do not support abortion and I said that a number of times. Also, I said that though I am against abortion I know that nothing can or will be done concerning abortion. So, it is a non-subject in choosing who I do or do not vote for. I explained carefully several times why nothing will be done about abortion.

    I have thought for a number of years that the emphasis should be shifted to avoid abortion by providing for the mother and promoting adoptions of these babies. There are many people willing to adopt. This has been shown through the years by the number of Chinese babies and babies from other countries that have been adopted by Americans.

    When a person sees that one option is not going to work then other options should be explored.
     
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    There has always been a huge focus on alternatives to abortion. To say there hasn't is just pure ignorance. Abortion needs to be outlawed. And the push for that will never end.
     
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    But not the attention it should have been given. If you can show me a source that says otherwise I would appreciate it.

    The push can continue, but it is not going to happen, not within our lifetime. Politicians cannot simply pass a law. The Constitution has to be amended ... and that is not going to happen, or the Supreme Court will have to overturn Roe v. Wade ... and that is not going to happen, not in our liftimes.

    So, money and effort should be directed toward alternatives that would reduce abortions.
     
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    What? You want an article on the net to prove it? What in the world do you think Christian Women's centers are for? Libs like you say you do not support the legalization of abortion but your actions say otherwise. You spout the same godless rhetoric that those who want it legal do. You all want it legal and push for health care to reduce it. I believe you are a closet abortion supporter myself.




    I have seen no evidence that your opinion on this is credible. But you are welcome to it to be sure.
     
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    Again, you spout off but show nothing but your opinon. You try to insult ... but it doesn't stick. No, I am not an abortion supporter. But I grew up in a very practical culture. If something isn't going to work then stop wasting time and respurces on that and find something else. That is really a conservative approach. It is the logical, rational approach.


    Are you saying you do not think adoption should be stressed? What is it that you are saying other than that abortions should be outlawed .... which isn't going to happen. You know what happens when you spit into the wind? Your face gets wet. Stop spitting into the wind and help find an alternative solution. It may not be perfect, but it just might be better than what we have now.

    [By the way, I am still waiting for your outrage on the threats to Obama and the dummies of him being hung.]
     
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    This rationalization intrigues me. Even if I grant your premise that absolutely nothing policy-wise can be done about abortion (but see this thread for the thorough debunking of such notion: http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=54436), doesn't the fact that a candidate supports people to choose abortion say something about that candidate's character? What if we lived in a society where 95% of the people thought it perfectly fine to dispose of Down's Syndrome babies, so that there was no hope of the laws ever changing. So you would deem it ok to support a candidate who supported such things? You can plug in any moral issue - rape, slavery - you name it. Wouldn't that speak about their lack of character in supporting the "choice" to perpetuate such atrocities? So why do you not think the same way about a candidate's view on abortion? It makes me wonder if your claims of being anti-abortion are really genuine. So please help me see through this inconsistency.
     
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    uh huh

    :sleeping_2:

    Then you should go back an actually read the thread instead of acting like a child and following me around with this silliness.
     
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    Is that the best you can do. I guess so.



    :sleeping_2:



    Still waiting ... you did promise, child.
     
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    Our baptist association spends thousands annually on crisis pregnancy center, counseling, job training for single moms, etc.

    I think many churches/associations put quite a bit into alternatives (as we do). It's just not publicized, and most of us don't see this as an "either-or" option.
     
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    I am glad your association is doing that ... and it needs to be done more. We need to concentrate on what we can do and not spend so much time and resources on tilting at windmills ... i.e. trying to accomplish something that will not be accomplished.
     
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    But I can't help but wonder...had people held the same attitude regarding Jim Crow laws...would they have been repealed?

    I think there's room for both.
     
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    Abortions have been legal in Canada for many years. Before it became a means of birth control, abortions were handled by a committee of three medical doctors in a hospital who made the final decision as to whether an abortion was warranted.

    There was also a program in place to counsel the pregnant woman and assist in the placement of the child.

    Since Morgentaler won the right to free abortions, I fear, everything went crazy, and abortion became a free condom!

    The woman's movement didn't help.

    What I think is needed is more instruction at home regarding sexual practices and the proper place of sex in a relationship.

    I would never want to see abortions return to the butcher shops that existed a few years back, hence my motto: Abortion if necessary, but not necessarily abortion.

    I commend the system mentioned about by Mr. Bell. Indeed, more churches need to get involved in the unwanted pregnancy practice. Don't try to impose a guilt trip, but provide a momentary solution to the situation.

    Cheers,

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    Plenty of time for the guilt trip later- take it from someone who knows.
     
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    I suspect a lot of Christians ignored abortion. It is laughable that one of his supporters would start a thread like this. CTB isn't the only one with a guilty conscience.
     
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    EXCELLENT !!!!!!!
     
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    I wonder why Crabtownboy totally skipped over this post, and replied to the others after it. Man up, crabtownboy!
     
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    RBell gets post of the week, in my book.
     
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    Why are you making a political issue out of a thread that should not be political. What is wrong with the idea of trying to find alternatives that will cut down on the number of abortions. I think it is a good idea.
     

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