Just a heads-up: Some Christian forums are so biased that the administration stands so firmly against NT verses which teach against OSAS ... that they actually close threads down! I present these verses ... and the threads get shut down! In Christian discussion forums, this is deplorable! IMO, we MUST be able to RECONCILE all of the NT verses: both the OSAS verses and the anti-OSAS verses ... if we are to understand what the NT teaches about salvation. Isn't this rather obvious? Satan is "the god/ruler of this world/age" (John 12:31, 2 Corinthians 4:4). The NT also says: Satan is the father of all lies, and he deceives the whole world. The western church is in a most deplorable condition. The shepherds who are responsible for your spiritual well-being have abandoned you, and you are completely on your own! The ONLY thing you can trust in these last days is the combination of God's word and the Holy Spirit. Peace, and may the Lord be with you all.