Some people around here need to learn respect

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  1. evangelist6589

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    Just received a troubling email from a member who is thinking about leaving (no names) as he has been treated like dirt around here. I tell you people if you do not like me telling you to go chase a rabbit you need to learn to stop acting like one! I mean come on this is supposed to be a Christian site!
     
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  2. HAMel

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    I read the other day that sometimes the nicest people you meet are covered with tattoo's and sometimes the most judge-mental people you meet go to church on Sunday.

    ...or spend their free time on forums.
     
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    Here... We... Go... Again...
     
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    Evan - I'm going to be completely honest. When people disagree with you, they have done it kindly and peacefully and then you go with this rabbit thing, making you appear as mature as a 9 year old boy who laughs at farting jokes. If you want respect, you need to dish it out too. But disagreeing with you is not disrespecting you.
     
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    I'm confused. Are you writing on someone else's behalf? Because that's how you started out; but you ended talking about yourself.

    (Corrected to add "you"; somehow left it out first time round)
     
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    Evan you airing this is another one of those bad ideas that isn't going to end well.
     
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    Maybe he sent himself a troubling email. ;-)
     
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    Evan- How respectful is this statement?

    Grow up.
     
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  10. evangelist6589

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    Read my post again.
     
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    OK - I just did and I stand by what I said. What do you disagree with?
     
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    He disagrees with the fact that you don't agree with him
     
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    Agree with the premise that respect is in short supply, but -- Luke_4:23 " ----Physician, heal thyself: -----."Rolleyes
     
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    Will it say something different if we click our heels together?

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    I'm partly to blame here. I didn’t anticipate a thread being started and until it started getting ugly didn’t intend to respond, but in a PM to Evan I mentioned that I was contemplating leaving this board. While I understand your reasoning and would have preferred a private discussion to have remained that way, you have attributed to Evan intent in error. I messaged him, apologized if he thought I was harsh in some of my responses, and encouraged him to be faithful.

    But since we are here I will offer my undebatable opinion. There are some on this board who evidence a denial of Christ through their interactions and comments. There are some who have probably never experienced Christian debate and will reply “this is a debate forum,” as if it excuses their ungodly behavior. A few here will stand by the declaration that God regenerates and makes a spiritually dead person alive, a new creation, yet prove by their own posts that they are not a part of these people. There are some here who lean on their own understanding, cannot defend their positions with Scripture yet insist dogmatically that their view entitles them to personally attack people who believe differently. In other words, there are some here, if their interactions on this forum evidence their spirit, who have a cultic apprehension of Christianity but are void of Christ Himself. They hold a Christless Christianity in that Christ is to them doctrine only. To use the erroneous illustrations of some, they are goats who think themselves sheep. And we know this. Many will say on the last day “Lord, Lord” only to hear “I do not know you” in return.

    We are called to judge by one’s fruit, and certainly we cannot know the heart of another. Yet we are still called to judge by the fruit exhibited by people who call themselves believers – and this forum is a gathering of professing believers even if it is online. We (who genuinely believe) are called not to associate with those who through their actions exhibit ungodliness while professing faith within the pretense of excepting them within the Body of Christ (2 Thes. 3:14; 1 Cor. 5:9; 2 Cor. 6:14-18). I am not talking about arguing and debating, and sometimes responding emotionally and inappropriately to a brother or sister in Christ. I am talking about intentional sin, intentionally attacking and insulting members of the Body of Christ (which is essentially attacking and insulting Christ).

    We are not perfect and we all sin, we get angry and we respond emotionally. But there is an element on the BB (and it is present on other boards as well) that seeks to personally attack people, who view “debate” as having less to do with working through and defending doctrine and more to do with trying to indoctrinate others to their understanding while personally attacking anyone who disagrees. These team up, run in pacts, try to tear down, insult, and indoctrinate. This is cultic behavior, not Christianity.

    Yet there are also many godly men and women here. I have dealt pleasantly with everyone on this thread, and I believe all of you to be brothers and sisters based not only on your professions of faith but also on your interactions here (even when we disagree). And I have enjoyed the fellowship here, and I’ve learned from several members of different theological persuasions. There are several here who do understand what debate is, who do know their faith, and who can deal with Scripture and other people’s interpretations. Therefore I’m contemplating just ignoring several members and sticking around to enjoy the company of others who do appear to be brothers (even when we argue, occasionally get out of hand, and disagree), or simply leaving the board to spend more time working on sermons and studying.

    So, while I did not intend to go here I also did not want to see Evan take insults for something I mentioned in a message. Evan and I disagree on quite a few issues, strongly so on some. I also question the way that he sometimes interacts on this forum – but I do believe he is a brother in Christ and I know that he does not deserve the abuse that is often thrown his direction (even and unfortunately when it is thrown his way by my hand).
     
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  16. Salty

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    Yes, Evan is a brother in Christ
    But I also fight with my (bio) brothers as well!

    Jon, appreciate your comments, I hope you do stay. For those that drive you nuts - just do what I do - hit the ignore button. Sure takes off some of the stress.

    Trusting we will see many more of your posts.

    Salty
     
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    I am puzzled about the use of rabbits in conversations and then in another breath crying for respect. Telling people to go chase a rabbit is more in line with the humor of a 13 year old boy than an adult having conversations on a forum. So long as that tactic is employed one will only receive the respect a child would obtain.

    I hope Jon does not leave but he would not be the first for similar reasons. We all have to have boundaries in our lives and they are going to be different for everyone. The key is to set your boundaries in such a way that you move yourself to accommodate those boundaries rather than starting childish threads demanding everyone else meet your boundaries. Jon is working out how to handle his own. He is not demanding anything from anyone else.

    Evan needs to do the same.
     
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    Been saying the same for years. The waters are chummed , and then the group of sharks attack.

    I just wish Evan would stop setting himself up to be the recipient of the bites.
    Anywhoo.[​IMG]
     
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    Since I have no history on this board with anyone other than Salty and RevM, Poncho and maybe Carpro if he is still around, I would like to offer a bit of advice that I trust will be sound advice.

    Paul was very clear in 1 Corinthians that the more mature believers were to be responsible for the less mature believers. My thought is this when one writes a reply on a post remember to disagree in kindness. Referring to someone as a brother or a sister in Christ or as a sir or mam in a non aggressive way is simply biblical deference. I am not suggesting we lie or accept untruth but please allow for a person to be wrong in ignorance or entertain the idea that perhaps you should not be so dogmatic that your response is correct as we see evidenced in this post. One thing life has taught me is that it is easier to give a brother or sister the benefit of the doubt. I say this with kindness with no intention of creating hard feelings "what does it hurt if someone does not agree with our position on a point attacking them will probably not cause them to see your point but by treating them with love and understanding they may come to see differently. How many of you have moved by vehement disagreement and how many of you have been moved from a position by patient understanding and kind words.

    Many of the sermons I preached as a young man I would cringe at the idea of preaching them today. Why? I have been convinced by the Holy Spirit and others that I held wrong interpretations / beliefs. I believe we can all say amen to that truth none of us here hold the same beliefs and interpretations about all things we held in bible college or when we first got saved.

    So after all of this I suggest we make it a point to treat everyone with respect and kindness even when disagreeing. Reread your post and ask yourself how would I respond if someone replied to me in that way. If you get attacked don't respond and remember "great peace have they who love they law and nothing shall offend them".

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  20. evangelist6589

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    This is what I call 13 year old humor.
     

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