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Sorcery sells, and the young are buying

Discussion in 'Polls Forum' started by Rufus_1611, Jun 12, 2007.

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  1. Unfit for Christians

    18 vote(s)
    56.3%
  2. Just fiction and harmless

    12 vote(s)
    37.5%
  3. Other

    2 vote(s)
    6.3%
  1. Bro. Curtis

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    Gotcha. Just know that my kid believes in the power of her savior.
     
  2. Gwyneth

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    Too many parents have let down their guard when it comes to their kids. In fact, I think that there are many kids that God is raising all by Himself - with no help from the parents.

    well said ........... but it`s more than two methinks (see original) :smilewinkgrin:
     
  3. SBCPreacher

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    That is definitely what is most important. In fact,m when this life is over, that's all that will matter!
     
  4. SBCPreacher

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    Ah, yes. I stand (well, really sit) corrected!
     
  5. James_Newman

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    Except for that part where we get judged according to our works. I expect how we raise our children will figure prominently in there somewhere.
     
  6. Bro. Curtis

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    Oh, good grief.

    I suspect a lot of B.B. conversations will be held against us, as well.
     
  7. SBCPreacher

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    If we have the greatest of works, and our kids enter into eternity lost, I just don't think our works will matter all that much then.

    I believe that one of our greatest "works" is teaching our kids about Jesus from the time their born, modeling it out before them, and helping them trust Christ as soon as they are able. "Witchcraft 101" won't help them know Christ (in my opinion at least).
     
  8. James_Newman

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    I imagine you are right. When we come to terms with the idea, it makes for quite a different outlook on life. Things that seemed small suddenly become important.
     
  9. Baptist Believer

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    Right.
    You could just say that you don’t know if it is a legitimate quote or not.
    It is a commonly-used quote among those who want to merge church and state, but that’s quite a different thing than being a quote that is recognized by those who have studied the life and works of Lincoln.
    Ah yes, the “prove to me he didn’t say it” defense. Since it is impossible to prove a negative, the burden of proof is on you. You made an assertion he said it. You should demonstrate that he did or at least have enough humility and integrity to admit that you have no idea if what you are asserting is true.
    You and I recently went round and round regarding some alleged quotes regarding The Beatles. Out of the four quotes you provided, I was able to check on the veracity of two of them, and found that they were both completely false. Since the people you were getting your quotes from obviously either didn’t check original sources themselves or were intentionally lying, I strongly suspect that the other two quotes are false.
    But beyond the problem of getting misled by false quotes, distortions and lies, you shouldn’t do history or analyze the views of others by cherry-picked quotes in the first place. It is far too easy to be misled according to your preconceptions and biases.
    Why doesn’t the church have more influence then? If the church would start living the gospel of Christ (that is, conducting our lives as Jesus did in the power of the Spirit), the church would have an incredible amount of influence. Why do we expect the schools (that is, the government) to do the work of the church?
    Nice accusation. :rolleyes: Are you spending your time reading humanist literature or did you just pick up this quote from a like-minded Web site, not knowing the context?
    Why do you think he is correct? If influence is only measured by time in Sunday School, then he may well be correct. But if the church is involved in the life of the children, teaches them to think for themselves, and the parents are involved, then the influence of a malevolent school system is minimal. (Incidently, didn’t Potter write this back in the day when you claim “God” was part of the curriculum?) I don’t have an easy way to verify this quote without spending more than $65 to purchase a used copy of this book, so I can’t tell you either way. However, you did include a general reference to a real author and book, so that’s a big step.
    I’m all for that. But having Harry Potter books in the school library is not the same thing as teaching Harry Potterism in the classroom. Furthermore, if you advocate eliminating a quasi-religious point-of-view from library (the removal of Harry Potter books), you must also remove the Bible from school campuses, if you want to be consistent. That’s dangerous ground.
    Discerning truth from propaganda is a major part of getting an education. The church should be on the forefront of this instead of spreading our own propaganda.

    I agree. But protesting having Harry Potter books in the school library is extreme, unless you truly want to make the public schools a religion-free zone. What’s next? Ignoring the Reformation in history class since it was primarily a religious conflict?

    That is probably true. However, God’s words are living, active, and sharper than a two-edged sword. I could likely read tens of thousands of Rowling’s words without being moved, even emotionally, but one or two of God’s words can pierce me to the core and transform my life. It’s not the quantity of words that is important, but the nature of those words.
     
  10. Hope of Glory

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    When my son was younger, he had to do a book report, and wanted to do it on "Left Behind". They wouldn't let him. So-called separation of church and state. Yet, the Koran is openly endorsed as being "diversity" education, Harry Potter is worshipped, and Secular Humanism is taught from the pulpit of public education.

    However, if our kids are well-grounded in Truth, these things won't harm them, but as James has pointed out, if you write a popular book making murder look like innocent fun, our murderous population will blossom.

    Do a Google on witch sources and see how much Harry Potter has helped them. One from a few years back had doubled in membership in one month.
     
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    You'd be right. I know of at least two witch-schools that have opened up with Potter-like themes and have been doing quite well among young people.
     
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    Magic has been marketed to young people long before Harry Potter appeared on the scene. Just walk into any major book store and you will find an entire section on Occult/Wicca/New Age.
     
  13. Magnetic Poles

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    Maybe the poll should be one for those who think Potter is unfit...and ask how many have actually read it before condemning it.
     
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    I have never read the Satanic Bible, is it alright that I condemn it?
     
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    Harry Potter has made it much more popular and fun and attractive and...

    Yes, it's always been there, and it's always been available.
     
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    I had no need to read beyond the first one, if that's what you mean.

    Reading the first one gave me about 100 pages of notes. And a headache.
     
  17. Magnetic Poles

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    Good for you, HoG! That's better than most.

    Notes? On a children's fiction book? Whatever for?
     
  18. Magnetic Poles

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    I wouldn't call LB either church or Christianity.

    Worshipped? I doubt that! Being a bit melodramatic, are we?

    Pulpit in public education? Not likely! And all this obsession of Secular Humanism is just a boogeyman.
     
  19. Bro. Curtis

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    It's a pretty silly reason to deny a kid doing a book report on it. Wouldn't you agree ?
     
  20. bobbyd

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    How about both? It is fiction and should be accepted as such, but at the same time i don't think it is suitable for Christians (especially young Christians), especially in light of the fact that there are so many avenues of Christian "entertainment" out there.
     
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