This is from another thread to Phillip: (didn't want to hijack that thread) Phillip, I am going to post some items which leads me to believe President Bush has turned his back on his base - the Evangelical Christians. I'm sure others here will not agree - so debate at will, but I won't be debating. RE: SEPT. 11, 2001 From William J. Murray (Evangelist son of atheist Madeline Murray O'Hare) Link: http://www.rfcnet.org/wjmreport/october2001.htm Before I read the above statement from RFC, a C-span caller had called in to say the same info about the imam. Later googling verified the info re: this imam is correct. Link: http://www.connectionmagazine.org/2002_02/ts_bush.htm Link: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/DailyNews/evangelical_christians021118.html IMO, with this attitude, it is but a small step from speaking Biblical truth to that being called a hate crime. This is just too politically correct if we are truly fighting a war on terror, IMO. Islam - Bush remarks from White House web site: http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/ramadan/islam.html The linK (there are others re: this): http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/11/16/wus116.xml RE: The DC snipers: http://www.wjmurray.com/news/default.asp?action=detail&article=62 A couple of threads on this topic previously posted here on BB: http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000690 http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000719 It is not that President Bush doesn't know. Many Conservative Evangelical leaders have written to him or had informal face-to-face meetings with him over these things. I know this is a sore subject for many folks. Now that the war in Iraq is pretty much over, I feel at liberty to address these topics once again. They are disturbing to me. And now there is the Road Map thing, making deals with terrorists, those who support Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, al-Aqsa Martyr Brigade. Thanks for asking, Phillip - Draw your own conclusions.