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Soul Vs Spirit

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Artimaeus, Apr 19, 2004.

  1. Artimaeus

    Artimaeus Active Member

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    Where can I go on the web to get a good clear explanation of the Biblical distinctions between the soul and the spirit. I've looked at the Hebrew and Greek words and quite a few verses and know that there is a difference but, I haven't been able to understand it well enough myself to be able to explain it to others. If someone here can do the honors I would be just as happy.
     
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    I'd like to ahve some really good explanation(understandable) on this, I'd like to know too.
     
  3. TWade

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    For an excellent and biblical treatment of the trinity of man, I highly recommend "Complete Salvation, Body, Soul & Spirit" by Dr. M.H. Tabb.

    You can order a copy for just $3.00 at: http://www.gcbi.org/bookstore.html

    After reading this 49 page booklet, you'll have a complete understanding of the subject.
     
  4. HankD

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    I've heard it put this way:

    Body - creation or earth awareness.
    Soul - self awareness.
    Spirit - God awareness.

    HankD
     
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    Although I am a trichotomist, there is alot of interchanging between the terms throughout Scripture.
     
  6. Turbeville

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    Hank...that brings up the following points..a plant has a body, an animal has a body and soul(self-awareness) and man has a body, soul and spirit...the spirit is what separates us from animals...we are able to worship God!
     
  7. donnA

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    Aaahhhh! I see now.
    Is this what created in the image of God is(as noted above animals do not have this awarness of God)?
    I'll have to do some thinking and reading on this then.
     
  8. Turbeville

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    A dog knows it is a dog but there is no awareness of its creator..which is God! When God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of the Holy Spirit and man became a living soul...That spirit gives us the ability to have a free will to worship or not to worship God!
     
  9. HankD

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    KJV Genesis 1:26
    And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

    NKJV
    Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

    God said “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness”.

    We are made not only in the image of, but after the likeness of Elohim.

    If you have the wherewithal do a self-study on the biblical terms “image-tselem” and “likeness-demuth” or ask your pastor for help.

    There are too many opinions and controversy concerning the application of these words with respect to our relationship with/to God.

    A debate might turn ugly here at the BB. [​IMG]

    HankD
     
  10. Artimaeus

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    Thanks, Diane for the links and thanks everyone else for responding. I have to be out of town for a couple of days but, when I come back I will continue the discussion. We are discussing this in our Sunday School class and it would help if I had a better handle on it, especially, since I am the teacher. :D

    [​IMG]
     
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    Maybe a new topic, if so just tell me.

    What/How did the fall affect the trinity of man?

    I have heard one preacher say it is like a three story building, the flesh is the bottom story, the soul is the middle, the spirit is the top, when the fall occurred it is like the top story of the building collapsed into itself and is now on the ground level===flesh, and is bound by that, but that only the word of God is able to divide between these levels.

    What do ya think? Seems reasonable to me. Which part of man is eternal? the spirit or the soul?

    Bro. Dallas [​IMG]
     
  13. Turbeville

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    The body will die and remain asleep in the grave until the rapture but the soul and spirit are eternal..at the moment of death then our soul and spirit are present with our Lord..We still have a trinity which is body,soul and spirit even after the fall. But sin separates us from God and we are his enemies until we are saved and join the family.
     
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    My pastor gave me a study on this, I don't know it's source. I am going to put it on my web page, when I get it done I will let yall know and anyone interested in looking at it can. I have looked over it and so far not found anything objectionable about it, but I have not taken time to look at it real closely.

    Bro. Dallas [​IMG]
     
  15. Artimaeus

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    I was given an interesting link at the Zola Levit Discussion Board called Tripartite Man . It seems to make the most sense (so far) to think of the Body as a large circle within which is a smaller circle representing the Soul and an inner circle for the Spirit. The whole thing is the whole person and no part can be left out without being less than a person. At the time of the fall man's Spirit died (ceased to function not ceased to exist). Man's Soul and Body were placed under the curse, also, and began to function like animals but with a higher mental capacity. Without the intervention of God man would remain in such a fallen condition. At the point of salvation the Spirit is rejuvenated and again becomes a functioning aspect to man as a whole person. The soul can then begin the process of being renewed into the image of Christ, a process than will, of course, not be completed until heaven is reached. The body has no hope of recovery and will have to be completely replaced when we receive our glorified bodies. We were created with Body, Soul, and Spirit, we remain with Body, Soul, and Spirit and we will ever be with Body, Soul, and Spirit. Animals were created with Body and Soul but not Spirit. This all seem right to me. However, just to play the devil's advocate for a second, let me ask this, "Why, if animals have no responsibility for their action of right and wrong, was the serpent punished for letting Satan indwell him to tempt Eve?" [​IMG]
     
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    "Why, if animals have no responsibility for their action of right and wrong, was the serpent punished for letting Satan indwell him to tempt Eve?"

    1. For a perpetual reminder to mankind of what happened at the fall.
    2. The serpent is only punished symbolically. How would an animal know that it was being punished. Other animals (earth worms) also crawl through the dust and the earth, but don't think themselves cursed. The snakes or serpents cannot go back in their minds or memories and think about vengeance and the day that they were "cursed by God." They have no knowledge of it. The event was purey symbolic and educational for man's sake--for his memory; not the snake's memory.
    DHK
     
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