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Featured Southern Baptist leader: Donald Trump a ‘lost’ soul’ who must repent

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Zaac, Jun 6, 2016.

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  1. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

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    DUDE. You're a Donald Trump supporter talking about reminding someone of love. :rolleyes: How ridiculously foolish you look. Your attempts to be relevant in threads is shamelessly sad.Go have two sets. Shalom.
     
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    Oh so now God has stated to y'all that His view on capital punishment is not mercy as demonstrated by what Christ did on the Cross to keep us from a well deserved death?:Sneaky
    Y'all are the ones mired in hypocrisy. So in case you don't realize it, that's kinda a dead giveaway that you're wrong on the issue.

    You are really starting to sound like some gay person just really messed you up. FOCUS.
     
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    What on earth are you talking about?

    You're a murderer. Shall we set a date for you to be put to death for YOUR crimes?
     
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    Son, you continue to be the epitome of self-delusion ... Matthew 3:12 explains that it is the job of the Father to separate the wheat from the chaff or tares. I know what I have been placed on this earth for and that is to be a witness to the lost of this world ( Mark 16:15). None of us need your judgment. None of need your scorn. None of us need to bow to your observations of our views.

    I know who saved me and it surely wasn't you. Thus your rants and views mean nothing to me. You only delude yourself every time you dish out your words of chastisement. Those who you scorn know that it is only God that we have to please. We will be judged in the day by God, just like you. You are no better than any other who has been bought, redeemed and saved by the precious blood of Jesus. Know this, it was not your blood that was shed for our sins, so it is not your place or calling in this life to put us conservatives in our place.

    If you are a joke to us, what do you think you are to God? Turn your judgmental eyes upon yourself, son, because I think it is way overdue.
     
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    I find it entirely inappropriate for Dr. Moore to not support Trump, as his statement is meant to be a precedent for the denomination.

    Hillary Clinton's policies are clearly more opposed to Christian morality and should be recognized as such. Dr. Moore ought to have vocalized his criticisms of Trump (which weren't specific enough here for my taste) and ended with a statement that the republican nominee is a better choice than the democratic nominee. As it stands it seems the reader trying to align his view with the denomination is encouraged not to vote.
     
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    In this rare occasion that Rolfe engaged someone on the content of his argument, I find his reasoning sound.

    The simple fact of the matter is that the civil government is given the role to punish people for only what they do, not what they think. There may be all kinds of murders in my heart, but the government can only punish me for the outward murder I commit.

    1Pe 2:13-14 Submit . . . unto governors, as unto them that are sent by [the Lord] for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

    Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.​

    This is stuff taught in childrens' church, and you know it, but in Socialist fashion, you pervert the doctrines of Christianity to serve your own oppressive agenda and justify your racist politics.
     
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    That must have been painful to write that.
     
  8. Zaac

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    I have made a clear distinction between the spiritual and the secular.

    What the government can do should not affect the position of the Christian. IMO, it is very clear by the Cross and the teachings of Jesus and everyone else in the NT, that regardless of what the position of the government is, the position of the Christian should ALWAYS be grace, mercy and LIFE as demonstrated by the Cross and everything about who the word of God expected us to be thereafter.

    This same government sanctions abortion. This is, like divorce, just something that God ALLOWS the government to do.

    Like divorce, this way of the world is contrary to how The Cross and the teachings of the NT demonstrate God's expected position from the Christian.​
    The only one perverting Scripture is those of you who think that God has ever asked Christians to act like the world.
     
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    The man has demonstrated nothing of Christ. Christian looking to honor Christ support Trump?

    His statement seems to be intended to point out why he won't do something and why he believes others shouldn't.
    Ad which policies might that be?:Sneaky

    That would be dumb and would serve nothing but politics. Dr. Moore seems to be speaking from the perspective of honoring CHrist.


    As it stands, the only way a reader deduces that is if he believes a certain party is the equivalent of God's word as viewed by a denomination. It IS not.
     
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    notion those those whom had adepraved

    Jesus paid the debt in full for my sin debt owed to God, but do you really think that his blood now means that we can go to heavon, and avoid getting jailed or even executed if we do a horrible crime to someone else?

    How do you read romans 1 Zaac? Did the Apostle paul support the notion those those whom had a depraved sin ridden mind and lust/Homosexual/Lesbian, were gulity of doing such abomination to deserve being put to death?

    that was after the Cross, correct?

    or do you think the words of jesus carry more weight than the Apostle paul on this subject matter?

    The Cross bought us forgiveness in full of all spiritual debts, but there still will a reckoning in this life for sins and crimes commited....
     
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    How does the Cross factor into physical death and punishment at all though" it refers to SPIRITUAl healing and forgiveness, but the lord STILL has a moral law to uphold, and that he demands death for those whom crimes merit it...

    God does view and judge sin on differing levels, does he not?
     
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    The Christian position is the Scriptural position, and the Scriptures clearly teach what is the just and proper role of the civil government.

    Yeah, governments sin. So? It is not Christianity to let the guilty go free.

    Again, you know that, but in lockstep with your racist politics, you will tout the lie.
     
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    I have no idea what that says.

    What I KNOW is that you're STILL missing the point. No one is talking about what the government can do . I'm talking about what the position of the CHRISTIAN should be.

    Let me answer it this way. Do you deserve death because of YOUR sin?

    After the Cross did you deserve death for your sin? The answer both times is yes because in accordance with Scripture, you're guilty of breaking EVERY commandment. But even after all of that, Jesus extended His grace and mercy for you and took death off the table.

    So who are you or any other Christian to advocate the death of another at the hands of the government when God has forgiven you of the same things? Not only forgiven, but told that you will have eternal life instead of death in spite of your sin.
    I think you're confused. The words of Paul are in the Bible because they were inspired by God. So how does God's word carry more weight than Paul's non-existent word?

    What in tarnation does that have to do with the position those who have been forgiven should have?
     
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    Umm, it's that whole die and go to hell and be forever separated from Christ thing.

    Nope. He allows the secular world to use it just as HE does divorce. But the Cross clearly shows that the way of God for the Christian, not the secular world, is that we advocate life.

    Sin is sin. You and others just seem to think yours isn't worthy of death.
     
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